- 10 May 2024 04:06
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Or maybe it's an inanity because commercial media is not as important as it used to be when you were 15.
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wat0n wrote:Or maybe it's an inanity because commercial media is not as important as it used to be when you were 15.
QatzelOk wrote:Media has become a lot more intrusive and powerful than when I was a kid.
At least back then, you couldn't "take TV with you wherever you go" like you can now with cellphones and tablets.
Kids today are more controlled (and damaged) by organized crime media than my generation was at the same stage in our lives. And we were already hopelessly damaged.
By the way, wat0n, you seem to be one of the most media-damaged people on this forum. You come to this thread, not as a participant, but as one of its patients.
"Tell me, how did the movie make you feel?
Show me on the doll where the movie touched you."
wat0n wrote:...commercial media...social media...
QatzelOk wrote:Commercial media can be called "television" for the purposes of this thread. And most people interact today with a mixture of commercial media manipulation of their psyche, AND the added manipulation of collective damage from the same commercial media EXPRESSED as normalcy in social media.
I would like to ride a bike instead of driving an SUV but I can't because I watch entertainment media.
I would like to stop voting for genocidal vassals but I can't because I watch entertainment media.
I would like to participate in my community but I can't because I watch entertainment media.
I would like to improve my relations with other people and make peace with myself but I can't because I watch entertainment media.
I would like my species to survive as long as it possibly can but we won't because we watch entertainment media.
I would like to escape commercial media manipulation by interacting on social media, but I can't because commercial media now places people in social media as influencers.
QatzelOk wrote:The billboards that you pass in your car every day are a complement to the commercial radio you listen to in the same car every day.
Notice that on the radio, you have three minutes of music (Baby, love, mama!) followed by three minutes of ads that are voiced by people you might like to know... if you weren't always alone in your car.
Mama loves you and wants you to buy the products you hear the voices announce. And you're Mama's baby, so react like a baby with pure emotion please.
The billboards attack you as part of the environment that you "experience" at the same minute of your commute every day. "Enjoy Coca-Cola" is more of a command than a suggestion when you pass it every day at 8:33 am.
Never having read the book or the texts that explain what is about, Unthinking Majority wrote:They just want to sell you products to make money.
People still have free will to make consumer choices, including ignoring ads. Don't let people off the hook so easily, people aren't helpless victims, we all have agency and power of choice.
Some adult humans are like children and compulsively buy products as an emotional response they have trouble controlling.
Mr_Chow_Mein wrote:...Within one hundred years we have destroyed ourselves.
Look at any movie or screen since television first entered our lives and you can see the training of our minds for short attention.
Look at how many cuts in action from one view to another that is employed within ten seconds…we train the mind for short intervals of attention, turn the tv or screen off and try and relax for a moment, you will start to quickly become agitated, restless and yearning for stimulation…its like a visual drug of dependence....
QatzelOk wrote:wat0n , I think I found a quote that might help both you and Unthinking Majority to understand what exactly Debord means by media being a "regime" that maintains power for a cluster of powerful institutions including organized crime.
The "rapid cuts" that the commenter speaks about is related to the faster and faster cuts from one scene to another in movies. This fast-paced scene-changing actually shortens human attention spans and causes psychological distress, and leaves the entertainment-media victim unable to pursue long developed thoughts.
Of course, I disagree with him when he writes: "we have destroyed ourselves." It is more like "we have been destroyed by a technological fad."
QatzelOk wrote:wat0n , I think I found a quote that might help both you and Unthinking Majority to understand what exactly Debord means by media being a "regime" that maintains power for a cluster of powerful institutions including organized crime.
The "rapid cuts" that the commenter speaks about is related to the faster and faster cuts from one scene to another in movies. This fast-paced scene-changing actually shortens human attention spans and causes psychological distress, and leaves the entertainment-media victim unable to pursue long developed thoughts.
Of course, I disagree with him when he writes: "we have destroyed ourselves." It is more like "we have been destroyed by a technological fad."
Unthinking Majority wrote:...At the end of the day, adults are in control of what they choose to expose themselves to in order to entertain themselves. Parents are in control of what media they let their kids be exposed to in the home...
Public Health wrote: ...In the 19th century, recreational smokers sought opium for euphoria and relaxation, while parents soothed restless and teething babies with opiate-laced syrups. Women sipped opium tinctures for everything from menstrual cramps to anxiety...
In 1898, The Bayer Co. introduced its new remedy for cough and pain: heroin. Some believed it would prove less addictive than the morphine it was derived from, but reports of heroin addiction soon proved otherwise...
wat0n wrote:...That's why social media allows you to watch pretty much anything you want (since it allows you to create pretty much anything you want).
Quoting Debord, Tom Bunyard wrote:‘Of all those who have quoted from this book in order to acknowledge some importance in it’, he wrote in 1979, ‘I have not seen one up till now who took the risk to say, even briefly, what it was about’.
wat0n wrote:I don't find it surprising mainstream media will attack the competition, this goes both ways as this thread shows, but I don't think social media can be stopped at this point.
wat0n wrote:How do you stop social media, @QatzelOk?
wat0n wrote:So you have no response, like really, how exactly do you get rid of something as ubiquitous as social media?...
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