- 26 Apr 2024 01:47
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You did not read my post carefully enough.
I said chimpanzees and humans cannot produce viable offspring through sexual reproduction.
“Viable” here means that any human-chimpanzee hybrid would not be able to have kids.
Your source agrees with me. Any “offspring would be infertile” as the article puts it.
No one said viable offspring was the only criterion for a species. We were discussing the fact that you think the difference between chimpanzees and humans is arbitrary when there is a clear and objective line between them that is also used as a criterion for species, since it is objective and not arbitrary.
Whether or not a human chimpanzee hybrid is possible is irrelevant to the question of whether or not humans and chimpanzees are different species.
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That's how the light gets in...
FiveofSwords wrote:Uh no...both things are absolutely true. I am not moving any goalposts. You insisted that humans and chimps cannot have offspring. I said there was no scientific consensus on that. I showed a source repeating that claim.
You did not read my post carefully enough.
I said chimpanzees and humans cannot produce viable offspring through sexual reproduction.
“Viable” here means that any human-chimpanzee hybrid would not be able to have kids.
Your source agrees with me. Any “offspring would be infertile” as the article puts it.
I also said it is possible that humans are a ring species. You rejected that for no reason but whatever.. the fact you even know that a ring species is possible proves that your definition of species is simplistic and incomplete. Indeed there are many animals who are technically different species but absolutrly can have viable offspring.
No one said viable offspring was the only criterion for a species. We were discussing the fact that you think the difference between chimpanzees and humans is arbitrary when there is a clear and objective line between them that is also used as a criterion for species, since it is objective and not arbitrary.
Whether or not a human chimpanzee hybrid is possible is irrelevant to the question of whether or not humans and chimpanzees are different species.
There is a crack in everything,
That's how the light gets in...