@QatzelOk wrote:
Today, "Liberalism" is basically about letting "huge piles of cash" determine social policy. "Huge piles of cash" is a secular god for the liberal, and Trevor Noah is a well-paid media personality, and thus worships at the altar of "huge piles of cash."
For some reason, "Huge piles of cash" can never accurately recall history.
Ave María Q, this made me laugh a lot!
The British just can't do it. Admitting the truth, that the motivation was Greed and really just Greed? Is too much for them.
Late then goes into his speech about how they brought machines to make more efficient the tea production and so on and so forth.
Rich talks about how India did not exist until who showed up? Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the II?
Just stop the fucking self delusion.
I never believed that homo sapiens are perfection. Or that one human civilization is somehow magically superior to another because one organized another society so that it inherited better tea production or learned how to do this or that. India is the cradle of Chess, of a lot of modern mathematics, astronomy and of a lot of culture of all sorts. It is also a land of incredibly poverty, caste systems, prejudices and religious and ethnic violence and so on. It is also the land of the Bhagavad Gita.
People go to India and are revolted by the lack of hygiene in the streets the extreme poverty, the death and disease running rampant. The chaos, the dirt, and then the beauty, the mangos, the architecture of its great civilizations, its ancient tribes and disputes, its diverse languages and art, and so on.
India is everyone and everything all wrapped up. As it is because by itself it is about 18% of humanity.
The British want to think it went in there to bring civilization and humane practices to a backward society.
I never believed that. The British went in there for the same reason Christopher Columbus sailed the Atlantic long ago in 1492 looking for a trade route to India where they knew the spices were, the silk was, and the wealth of the East existed. Not to make it a better civilization but to pay debts off of the King and Queen of Spain for having to fight a bunch of Moors for eight centuries and unify the entire Spanish Iberian Peninsula against Moorish religion and its influences and expelling the Jews from a Roman Catholic nation who wanted there to only be one true religion. Greed. Lol. Couched in new pretty words of redemption and Jesus. The Cross or the Sword. Convert or Die.
The British were Let us Profit or Die. Lol.
Stop making bullshit excuses.
All human interactions are complex. No such thing as you are there and never learn from each other or adapt to what other cultures have in their lives. How many English eat Turkey for Christmas dinner? It is MEXICAN. How many Europeans drink Chocolate or eat it regularly? A lot. It is MEXICAN. How many eat corn products and so on? MEXICAN. How many use gunpowder? CHINESE. Use paper to write on. CHINESE. How many use silk cloth for some fine item they own? CHINESE AND INDIAN. Black pepper?
The List is Endless Late.
The list is endless Rich.
Humans learn a lot from each other no matter who is the temporary master and the temporary servants.
Instead of admitting the motivations for imperialism why is it so hard to realize that GREED is not about being civilized? It is about being BARBARIC. SAVAGE. And UNCIVILIZED.
And unfortunately, until we accept that being that way with each other is a mistake? This merry-go-round of denial is going to continue.
We are supposed to be maturing as a species. It will never happen if we fail to take responsibility for the past history and the real motivations behind what happens.
As they say in Spanish, 'No hay mal del cual el bien no venga.' There is no bad that which good can't come.
It means that suffering and bad happen but through it, humans tend to also bring something good in its wake.
The key to doing things right is not living in denial. It is embracing acceptance of it all. And making better decisions in the present. Knowing full well that all of humanity has gained by knowing more about the others out there living different experiences from each of us.
The truth is about accepting the good and the bad together and choosing something more humane and respectful. Not denying responsibility.