- 19 Mar 2014 02:49
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It's not always that simple.
It gets murkier when you're not talking about the original colonial settlers themselves, but their descendants. Even if they're originally a settler population, after a few genererations kicking the invaders out stops being a more or less straightforward process and becomes a horrible mess of tribal violence and ethnic cleansing. Because second and later generation settlers usually have nowhere else to go back to and see themselves as local, so they'll be far more averse to leaving than first-generation settlers.
When Catalonia becomes independent, we can't just go ahead and kick all the Spaniards out: It would require a ludicrous amount of violence to pull it off, and Catalonia's economy would have to make do with less than 60% of its original population, which just plain wouldn't work. (Without mentioning that ethnically cleansing the Spaniards would give an already hostile Spain an excellent fresh excuse to wreak havoc).
The only realistic way to deal with large settler-descended population groups after national liberations is either tolerance, cultural assimilation or a mixture of both.
Even if y'all manage to liberate Northern Ireland, you're probably stuck with most of the Huns for the long haul as well. Can't kick them out without extreme violence, and extreme violence against the Huns would bring trouble with the Brits back.
Decky wrote::roll:
I don't see how someone is meant to have mutral respect with an invader standing on their soil.
It's not always that simple.
It gets murkier when you're not talking about the original colonial settlers themselves, but their descendants. Even if they're originally a settler population, after a few genererations kicking the invaders out stops being a more or less straightforward process and becomes a horrible mess of tribal violence and ethnic cleansing. Because second and later generation settlers usually have nowhere else to go back to and see themselves as local, so they'll be far more averse to leaving than first-generation settlers.
When Catalonia becomes independent, we can't just go ahead and kick all the Spaniards out: It would require a ludicrous amount of violence to pull it off, and Catalonia's economy would have to make do with less than 60% of its original population, which just plain wouldn't work. (Without mentioning that ethnically cleansing the Spaniards would give an already hostile Spain an excellent fresh excuse to wreak havoc).
The only realistic way to deal with large settler-descended population groups after national liberations is either tolerance, cultural assimilation or a mixture of both.
Even if y'all manage to liberate Northern Ireland, you're probably stuck with most of the Huns for the long haul as well. Can't kick them out without extreme violence, and extreme violence against the Huns would bring trouble with the Brits back.
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