https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/29/maga ... -hell.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... ad/505037/
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skinster wrote:If this is about partition of Syria, I oppose it.
Oxymandias wrote:1. And your evidence is?
Oxymandias wrote:Why is that if Rojava does involve itself in ethnic cleansing?
Oxymandias wrote:2. Yes, that is obvious. But it does not support your point that Iran, Turkey, Syria, and Iraq will suddenly become balkanized immediately after they lose some insignificant territory that they didn't control in the first place.
Oxymandias wrote:3. This isn't about the EU Ter, it isn't about the EU at all.
Oxymandias wrote:4. You haven't given any other arguments against any of my other predictions. Simply saying "I disagree" is not enough of a good argument, especially in a debate forum such as this one. Responses such as yours don't contribute to the discussion at hand.
Oxymandias wrote:5. Rojava has clearly stated it's interest in the well being of Syria and Iraq.
Oxymandias wrote:Kurdistan has one of the largest areas of arable land in the MidEast but all that agriculture is useless if there are no buyers.
Oxymandias wrote:6. How can it be unforeseen if you predict it?
I read it on several occasions in the news.
Northern Syria is polyethnic and home to sizable ethnic Kurdish, Arab, Syriac-Assyrian and Turkmen populations, with smaller communities of ethnic Armenians, Circassians and Chechens. This diversity is mirrored in its constitution, society and politics. Despite such diversity, Rojava is regarded by Kurdish nationalists as Western Kurdistan (Kurdish: Rojavayê Kurdistanê), one of the four parts of Greater Kurdistan alongside southeastern Turkey (Northern Kurdistan), northern Iraq (Southern Kurdistan), and northwestern Iran (Eastern Kurdistan). It is also considered by Assyrians as Gozarto (meaning Upper Mesopotamia), part of the historical Syriac-Assyrian homeland.
Because they strive to realise their own homeland. They probably assume that removing other ethnicities will make their objective more realistic.
I know, I know. I mentioned Spain's violence against the Catalonians because it happened just days ago and I wanted to illustrate that if such violence occurs in the EU, we can only imagine what will happen in the Middle East where human rights are so much less respected.
Please quote what you are responding to, like I am doing here. Otherwise I do not know what exactly you are responding to.
I do not go along with your predictions about Kurdistan.
You said something about Kurdistan defending Syria and Iraq, that looks very implausible to me.
I thin you are looking at this matter through Iran-coloured glasses.
I don't blame you for that, we each have our background.
And you can leave out the ad hominems.
The first and foremost interest of the Kurds is to have their own homeland.
Whatever relations they will have with their neighbours will depend on circumstances.
As for Iraq, I would rather say there is a potential conflict possible about the demarcation of the future borders of Iraqi Kurdistan. The Kurds claim important oil fields in their territory and Iraq has already sent troops to occupy those oil fields.
Agricultural products will always find buyers.
I predicted only those elements that are predictable, i.e. Turkey and Iran's unwillingness to accept/allow an independent Kurdistan to emerge.
There will be many unforeseen events when the borders in the Middle East change. More upheaval most probably. New alliances, maybe new wars ?
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