- 07 Apr 2024 23:26
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That is clearly not true, given the amount of fighting Israel has required to gradually take control of Gazan territory.
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Saeko wrote:I'm pretty sure the only reasons he's doing this now is so they can coordinate their stories and suppress the evidence in order to avoid The Hague.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Not only did the IDF and Israeli government not give up any land, by keeping Gaza under military occupation, but they also never tried to get peace from their withdrawal. This is proven by the simple fact that they kept military control of the area.
wat0n wrote:
If anything, what's actually obvious is that many can't tell an occupation from a blockade
late wrote:You haven't figured it out, have you.
Israel has depended on us to keep the world off their back.
But when Biden's own wife is hollering at him, he won't be able to do that.
On top of that, because AIPAC kept a tight control of the narrative, our relationship was fixed. That works as long as it works, but it's stopped working. In the game of Go, it's called a snapback. You push too far, and then things snap back.
From your POV, this is very bad. Any diplomat would have warned you about playing hard and loose and under the table. And now the change has started.
wat0n wrote:
And now with some antisemitic conspiracy theories to boot.
Pants-of-dog wrote:Since no one disagrees with the claim that Israeli forces were always being violent in Gaza since 2005, we can conclude that it is incorrect to claim that the Israeli government gave up land for peace.
late wrote:It's not anti-Semitic, or a theory, much less a conspiracy theory.
But thank you for so blatantly demonstrating your cluelessness.
wat0n wrote:
Typical "defense" from the conspiracy theorists when called out.
But, if anything, Biden's pressure on Israel makes it obvious the conspiracy theorists were always wrong.
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