Rei this is a puzzling argument. Are the "Christians" liberal or conservative? The PO asked whether Liberals "hate the traditional family". The answer is obviously no. Neither do conservatives. We can try to attack the definition of "traditional" (and by the way the arguments we have seen so far have been pretty threadbare" but this is one of those cases of 'we know what we are all talking about'.
There are no lies on the part of Christian leaders and there is no hatred of the nuclear family on the part of "liberals". Look at the issues of gay marriage and lesbian adoption for example. These traditionally labeled "liberal" groups do not hate adoption or marriage. They aspire to them.
Decky posted this:
I just think they assume the current family has exist since the world was created 6000 years ago and that auguring against this would make the baby Jesus cry.
I am offended by that and I have every right to be. This is yet another example of the typically baseless drivel I hear from atheists with whom I have the misfortune to interact. The are, for the most part, people who are boorish and rude. They think it is just fine to insult large groups of people because they have religious beliefs. These same people, who would recoil in horror at any sentence that begins, "all black people" or "all faminists" are prefectly happy to print or even say to my face something like Decky just posted and you just endorsed.
So in the future I will assume that you and Decky think I am "that stupid" and that I believe the world was made 6000 years ago. You will, of course be mistaken. Sometime during my 9 years of college I think I had a class that got me up to speed. I guess I am one of the lucky Christians. That or perhaps you are both wrong and ought to admit it.
I admire your arguments even when we disagree but you have this thing about religious people that does not serve you well. Maybe you ought to think about that.