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As I should be doing.
The debate at the beginning of the twentieth century between Werner Sombart and Max Weber was about the role of religion in the origins of capitalism.
You can't ignore the religious bollocks.
Weber used many of the same arguments to push Calvinism.
That said.
Sombart's evidence was often haphazard, his knowledge of Judaism deficient, his biologistic explanations crude, and his distaste for both capitalism and Jews coloured his analysis.
Evidence haphazard...
Seeing as we were talking about the Dutch before.
Let's take Sombart's statement that the Dutch East India Company, without the money of the Jews, could not have played such an important role and that the Marranos founded Dutch commerce in the seventeenth century.
In the first place Dutch commerce in that period was based not upon the trade to the Far East but upon the nearer Baltic trade and the herring fisheries, and secondly, when the Dutch East India Company (V. O. C.) was founded in 1602, out of six and a half million of florins subscribed to the Company, one can only trace 4,800 florins to a Jew and Jewess. Next year saw another I,200 florins added, and in I604 five new Jewish names were attached to subscriptions, amounting to about 22,000 florins. But counting all these Jewish subscriptions together, they do not amount to more than 28,000 florins, or not quite one-twentieth of I per cent. of the whole subscription list.
So, too, concerning the Dutch West India Company, established in 1621; the total capital was 7 million, out of which eighteen Amsterdam Jews held 26,000 florins, about the same minute fraction as in the case of the Eastern company. In neither company was a Jewish 'Bewindhebbe or director, even though at the commencement of the eighteenth century the Jews held one-quarter of the stock of the W. I. C. (Westindische Compagnie), which then began its decline.
As aliens or quasi-aliens Jews had next to no share or influence in the Dutch East India Company.
And when they acquired a significant holding in the Dutch West India Company, it was in decline.
See W. Cunningham, The Growth of English Industry and Commerce in Modern Times: Part 1. The Mercantile System.
"All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia" Orwell
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FiveofSwords wrote:talking about religion
As I should be doing.
The debate at the beginning of the twentieth century between Werner Sombart and Max Weber was about the role of religion in the origins of capitalism.
You can't ignore the religious bollocks.
Weber used many of the same arguments to push Calvinism.
That said.
Sombart's evidence was often haphazard, his knowledge of Judaism deficient, his biologistic explanations crude, and his distaste for both capitalism and Jews coloured his analysis.
Evidence haphazard...
Seeing as we were talking about the Dutch before.
Let's take Sombart's statement that the Dutch East India Company, without the money of the Jews, could not have played such an important role and that the Marranos founded Dutch commerce in the seventeenth century.
In the first place Dutch commerce in that period was based not upon the trade to the Far East but upon the nearer Baltic trade and the herring fisheries, and secondly, when the Dutch East India Company (V. O. C.) was founded in 1602, out of six and a half million of florins subscribed to the Company, one can only trace 4,800 florins to a Jew and Jewess. Next year saw another I,200 florins added, and in I604 five new Jewish names were attached to subscriptions, amounting to about 22,000 florins. But counting all these Jewish subscriptions together, they do not amount to more than 28,000 florins, or not quite one-twentieth of I per cent. of the whole subscription list.
So, too, concerning the Dutch West India Company, established in 1621; the total capital was 7 million, out of which eighteen Amsterdam Jews held 26,000 florins, about the same minute fraction as in the case of the Eastern company. In neither company was a Jewish 'Bewindhebbe or director, even though at the commencement of the eighteenth century the Jews held one-quarter of the stock of the W. I. C. (Westindische Compagnie), which then began its decline.
As aliens or quasi-aliens Jews had next to no share or influence in the Dutch East India Company.
And when they acquired a significant holding in the Dutch West India Company, it was in decline.
See W. Cunningham, The Growth of English Industry and Commerce in Modern Times: Part 1. The Mercantile System.
"All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia" Orwell
E l/r -10 : L/A -7.64