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noemon wrote:Are you trying to have a serious conversation with a known paid troll that officially belongs in those very troll farms you are both referring to? :hmm:

Anything to justify confirmation bias, eh Rancid?

Abortion bans the result of Trump? Roe vs Wade was overturned because it was badly legislated by the Democrats as a right to the "woman's privacy" instead of "a woman's right to abort a fetus". The Republicans argued that a fetus has a right to privacy too and the whole thing came crumbling down, as band-aid legislation always does.

Nothing to do with Trump but everything to do with the Democrats trying to appease both sides & passing a stupid piece of legislation that can be easily contradicted.

Building castles in the sand is not the fault of the tide washing them away. But the fault of the idiot who built them there.


Litwin is different though. He is driven by desperation mostly because he is from Belarus.
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By Rancid
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noemon wrote:Anything to justify confirmation bias, eh Rancid?


No, just pointing out how the propaganda bots are going to take many different forms. There are different "threads" of bots to target different types of people. All with the goal with pushing them towards the same general positions that benefit whoever controls the bots. There are bots for people that respond to hot women pics, those that respond to right wing talking points, those that respond to left wing talking points, etc. etc.

BTW, I've also responded in disagreement to Litwin in the past when he posts stuff about how great the break of up the Russian Federation would be. So please don't insinuate that i just agree with this dude on everything.

JohnRawls wrote:because he is from Belarus.


oh, didn't realize that's where he's from.
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Litwin is not different to a paid troll farm and his name should give you a hint he is Lithuanian and clearly working for the western troll farms.

Rancid, disagreeing with a troll farm in the past does not excuse agreeing with a troll farm for the purpose of arguing against another [troll farm].

You are suporting an actually real troll in order to badmouth an imaginary one.

Obviously this is quite cringy.
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noemon wrote:Litwin is not different to a paid troll farm and his name should give you a hint he is Lithuanian and clearly working for the western troll farms.

Rancid, disagreeing with a troll farm in the past does not excuse agreeing with a troll farm for the purpose of arguing against another [troll farm].

You are suporting an actually real troll in order to badmouth an imaginary one.

Obviously this is quite cringy.


Wow, I had to take a moment to figure out the troll farm accusations and who was doing what to troll. My brain needs a rest now. :D
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Skynet wrote:@noemon Litwin is not a troll but a sophisticated and hard-working psyops warrior



:lol: Nice one. I wouldn't hire him tbh.
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By litwin
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Rancid wrote:There are numerous ways this is being attempted by bots. Another one is excessive both sides-ism, as well as the claim that "Trump and Biden" are exactly the same, so why bother to vote for Biden. Stuff like that. I'd like someone to tell women that they are both the same after all the abortion bans that have occurred as a direct result of Trump.


agree , 2 very weak leaders
ps
Eurovision 2024
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@Rancid

Rancid wrote:There are numerous ways this is being attempted by bots. Another one is excessive both sides-ism, as well as the claim that "Trump and Biden" are exactly the same, so why bother to vote for Biden. Stuff like that. I'd like someone to tell women that they are both the same after all the abortion bans that have occurred as a direct result of Trump.


Its called influence operations where opposing states will engage in propaganda or manipulation against the other to win over global opinion or the opinion of a particular audience to serve that state's interests. Influence operations are part of the propaganda war and soft power of states.

They are probably the most important aspect to ensuring the best interests of a state. An example would be how Russia, waged influence operations to get people in the United States to vote for a candidate in the U.S. Presidential election that would best serve Russian interests. This was done through manipulation via the use of bots. Really, you can see influence operations right here on this website to convince the global audience to a certain point of view that serves the interests of a particular state or group of people.
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Rancid wrote:Interesting look at the nuclear saber rattling Putin has been doing during this war.


Prigozhin must be happy down there :lol: Mr Shoigu better be aware of windows, tea and airplanes. :lol:
ps "Andrei Belousov, a longtime economic advisor, to head Muscovite ’s defense ministry." WHICH MEANS he is not a Military man, looks like Moscow empire´s WAR - economy goes under much faster than we thought ....
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Western Think Tank who claimed otherwise before has found out that Russias military production is growing.



Hu. Largest country of the world. Most crudes of any country of the world. Most important ally China with its enormous industrial base. Seen with China as the leading country of the BRICS, and as a leading country for the global majority.

Must have been really hard for these people to come to the conclusion that any layman can quickly come to just from these most general pieces of knowledge.
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Negotiator wrote:Western Think Tank who claimed otherwise before has found out that Russias military production is growing.



Hu. Largest country of the world. Most crudes of any country of the world. Most important ally China with its enormous industrial base. Seen with China as the leading country of the BRICS, and as a leading country for the global majority.

Must have been really hard for these people to come to the conclusion that any layman can quickly come to just from these most general pieces of knowledge.


Russia military production has been stagnant or growing very slowly in important categories like tanks, IFVs, IPCs, 152 and 122 mm shells etc. The only thing that is growing is emerging stuff like drones or more proper way to say changing.

Reality is that Russia already hit maximum saturation for production in late 2023 in most military production and is bottlenecked by absence of qualified manpower and facilities/machinery to build more. They already started working from 1 shift to 3 shifts. You can't expand more without building more factories and getting more manpower both of which they don't have.
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