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In Middle-Age the preachings were latin.


I showed this clip some friends:



Two of them understood big parts of this Roman Marching (an Italian and an Columbian)


Protestatism spread in Western Europe just in the north, in south Europe not. Could the reason be explained by linguistics. In the south are Italic languages which derived from Latin, in Teutonic north the people could not understand a single word of the preachings.
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#15170260
Mostly, it was technology.

The printing press had just been invented. Luther had 10 copies made, they all had 10 copies made, and his Protest spread like lightning (by the standards of that era) across the continent. It was the first mass communication, and it set off an era of religious war.
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late wrote:Mostly, it was technology.

The printing press had just been invented. Luther had 10 copies made, they all had 10 copies made, and his Protest spread like lightning (by the standards of that era) across the continent. It was the first mass communication, and it set off an era of religious war.

That might explain how it happened, @late, but not why it happened. The linguistic aspect was probably (a small) [part of it, but the cultural differences between the Germanic north and the Latin south of Europe went deeper than just not being able to follow the Mass. There was a fundamentally different set of values between the two halves of Europe.
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Potemkin wrote:
That might explain how it happened, @late, but not why it happened.



"The medium is the message."
Marshall McLuhan

The Church had been corrupt for centuries. It only took one letter to blow the continent to hell.

Yes, there were cultural differences, but the Church back then had enormous political power, so if you were close, they could send soldiers to bring you to heel.

Countries, empires and even businesses grow to places they can't maintain. The same synergies that help them get on top work in reverse to tear them apart.

“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

Shelley
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Potemkin wrote:There was a fundamentally different set of values between the two halves of Europe.

Precisely. Northern Europe in the 16th century was Godly, austere, and enterprising, while Southern Europe was (and, in fact, still is) a cultural wasteland of debauched idolaters. No wonder they stayed Papist. :excited:
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Heisenberg wrote:Precisely. Northern Europe in the 16th century was Godly, austere, and enterprising, while Southern Europe was (and, in fact, still is) a cultural wasteland of debauched idolaters. No wonder they stayed Papist. :excited:

Quoted for obvious, self-evident truth. Yet it always amazes me how few people can see it! :)
#15170335
Because there's nothing to see here. Northern Europe of 16th century is somewhat of Canadian tundra in comparison to Spain and especially Italy. Of course the retrograde empty wastelands are quickly consumed by the forces of reaction and adopt the most primitive and savage cults. Protestantism in general is somewhat out of 4th century, on the level of the sects who killed their children to tranfer them to the heaven faster.

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