Tribbles wrote:This is interesting. It definitely gives a bit cred to the national-conservatives.
Here's an article you might like ...
The Neo-Conservative Reich of Edgar Julius Jung
http://thescorp.multics.org/19jung.html"the Conservative project proposed by Jung differed from Hitler's extremist one
only in degree and not in kind. The community that Jung wished to turn the German people into was actually brought together in a major way by Hitler's molding of the Nazi movement as a gigantic mass-movement. Of course, this populism lacked the spiritual substance that Jung had stipulated for the community,
but the Nazis could at least argue that it was they who laid the völkisch foundations necessary for a uniform spiritual culture."
I think you will have a hard time finding conservatives who opposed Nazism. Mostly they were Aristocrats in the old military who hated Hitler just because he was a "commoner" and not because of his ideals...and also because he had led them into Operation Barbarossa.
The only reason they came up with "Valkyrie" is because they knew the Allies were going to win and they thought that if Hitler was gone, then they could "deal" with the Allies, since they had killed the boogie-man.
As for German conservatives, Arthur Moeller van den Bruck was an important conservative revolutionary way before Hitler. If you read his stuff you realise Hitler just stole most of his shit.
Germany's Third Empire (aka Third Reich)
http://archive.org/details/GermanysThirdEmpireThe Nazi ideal of the individual subordinating himself to the will of the State may appear to be 'socialistic', but it's really derived from a centuries old class society in Germany, where the Monarchy - Aristocrats - and Church were dominate over the rest of the population. Hitler just re-invented it and called it National-Socialist.
"the basic ideas of the National-Socialist movement are volkisch and the volkisch ideas are National-Socialist." ---Adolf Hitler
Baron Julius Evola, was a true rightwing reactionary, one of the original Fascists and a wing-nut.
Revolt Against the Modern World
http://archive.org/details/RevoltAgainstTheModernWorldMen Among the Ruins
http://archive.org/details/MenAmongTheRuins_536Evola says that traditional societies are hierarchical because they are a reflection of the un-changing hierarchy of the "cosmos"... the elites like Priests, Kings, and Knights are "Above" whereas the common folk, lay persons, dependents, farmers are "Beneath". Evola called this the "solar order".
Whereas the modern world has put an end to all that and has replaced it with dis-order. Authority and hierarchy are 'leveled" and he considers collectivism a characteristic of Bolshevist and Western societies alike.
Prussianism And Socialism (1920) - Oswald Spengler
http://archive.org/details/PrussianismAndSocialismConservative Revolutionary movement
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservati ... y_movement