- 03 Jan 2012 19:12
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And it always will be when we meet, because you refuse to acknowledge the validity of unalienable human rights. To you, what matters isn't the rights of Joe and Bob and Carol and Kaneesha, but the pseudo-rights of groups. If the majority says it is okay to violate the rights of the minority - even if in doing so they violate their own - then for you, it is okay. Mob rule wins. You would have been right at home in the pre-Civil War South.
Your justification for violating my rights extends not just to things that you personally approve of, but of things the mob does (or may come to one day, as the whims of popular opinion change) but you don't. Your argument puts no restraint on government at all other than the whims of the mob. This makes you in principle no different from any other tyrant justifying running roughshod over the populace. The only difference is you require a just-barely-big-enough plurality of people enthusiastic enough to vote for Statist representatives who solemnly promise them goodies bought with other people's money, while the tyrant needs just the consent of most of his flunkies.
Mob rule. Might is right.
Of course you do, because - despite your hollow protestations about being a conservative - every post you make espouses Lefty-Libbie principles. And Lefty-Libbies believe in the power of the mob above all else.
Phred
Drlee wrote:This is an endless argument on your part.
And it always will be when we meet, because you refuse to acknowledge the validity of unalienable human rights. To you, what matters isn't the rights of Joe and Bob and Carol and Kaneesha, but the pseudo-rights of groups. If the majority says it is okay to violate the rights of the minority - even if in doing so they violate their own - then for you, it is okay. Mob rule wins. You would have been right at home in the pre-Civil War South.
The FACT is that I do not maintain that the government may be spent "on anything in any amount" and your continued hyperbole is not helping us take you seriously.
Your justification for violating my rights extends not just to things that you personally approve of, but of things the mob does (or may come to one day, as the whims of popular opinion change) but you don't. Your argument puts no restraint on government at all other than the whims of the mob. This makes you in principle no different from any other tyrant justifying running roughshod over the populace. The only difference is you require a just-barely-big-enough plurality of people enthusiastic enough to vote for Statist representatives who solemnly promise them goodies bought with other people's money, while the tyrant needs just the consent of most of his flunkies.
I DO maintain that the government has the right to levy taxes and spend the money for whatever they choose to the extent the people acting through their elected representatives give them the right to do so.
Mob rule. Might is right.
I utterly reject the notion that an individual has any practical right that is not given them by those same people.
Of course you do, because - despite your hollow protestations about being a conservative - every post you make espouses Lefty-Libbie principles. And Lefty-Libbies believe in the power of the mob above all else.
Phred