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Life is unfair. If you're ugly, you have to work a lot harder to get a husband, if you are born with no legs you have to work a lot harder to get anywhere, if you're born with a smaller brain you'll have a tougher life than a genius, and if your parents are poor and can't help you, you'll have to work a lot harder than somebody that gets a huge help from parents. Not many capitalism supporters will deny any of this.
lucky, if saying that life is unfair justifies rich people screwing over the poor, then you might as well say that judges can make unfair judgements in court because life's not supposed to be fair. Why do you not care about fairness? Is it because you're happy with your life as it is and so you don't care about injustices happening to other people? If capitalism is unfair as it is, why wouldn't you want to try and change it?
TruePolitics wrote:lucky, if saying that life is unfair justifies rich people screwing over the poor [...]
TruePolitics wrote:Why do you not care about fairness?
Drlee wrote:You are denying the role of government
How did you read that from the paragraph you quoted? I said no such thing either.
Drlee wrote:Refer to my example of the man with no legs. Is it the governments job to ensure him access or not?
Liberals love their iPhones, but hate the process that led to it's creation. Poor people don't make iphones.
OP wrote:Why do Liberals hate the rich so much?
lubbockjoe wrote:Let's assume 1 rich person has as much wealth as 80,000 average people in a capitalistic society:
Can one rich person really be as valuable as 80,000 average people?
What could possibly make one rich person intrinsically 80,000 times more valuable than one average person?
Is it even possible that one rich person is capable of being as productive as 80,000 ordinary people, (let's say... school teachers)?
If that capitalistic system does not accurately reward true value, what is it rewarding?
Let's assume 1 rich person has as much wealth as 80,000 average people in a capitalistic society:
Can one rich person really be as valuable as 80,000 average people?
Certainly. How valuable was Jonas Salk in comparison to 80,000 average people?
If that capitalistic system does not accurately reward true value, what is it rewarding?
In the Capitalist environment, a thing is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. No more, no less. If that's not the most accurate measure of actual value, what measure do you believe should be used instead?
TruePolitics, the more money you have the more you can do.
TruePolitics, the more money you have the more you can do. Like you can start a research program or any kind of business. I think anyone would think that they can decide that better than others. Or, if rich man decides to give that money away, he still gets to decide that + there's some glory in being generous.
Unthinking Majority wrote:Why do conservatives hate poor people?Err, what ?
why do Liberals hate the rich so much?
If I gave away all my millions today, and became like you, would that change America? The answer is no. Therefore, you need me to be wealthy, so I can keep paying your welfare.
OK, now I'm confused. You want me to remain rich so your welfare check continues to come in. But at the same time, you keep criticizing me for being rich?
What do you have against me creating jobs for people? At the end of the day, only the rich can employ people. I don't remember ever working for a broke person before, do you?
I fall in the top 1% or taxpayers, and I pay 42% of all the income tax collected by the government. Without me paying these huge taxes, how would you collect your welfare check? You can't. Seems to me you're biting the hand that feeds you.
Perhaps the most important point of all, is that wealthy Liberals like Pelosi, Obama, Al Gore, Soros, John Kerry, Oprah, have yet to give their money away to charity. If you Liberals really believe in wealth re-distribution, what better way to convince me than to show me?
At the end of the day, "wealthy Liberal" should be an oxymoron. Therefore, wealthy Liberals are all hypocrites.
Poor Liberals are hypocrites too, since I haven't heard any of you criticize the wealth of your rich counterparts. How come they haven't given their wealth away to help the poor like they preach?
Only the rich can create jobs. True.
That means the only way for all of us to be equal like Liberals want, is if we all became poor. Everybody was equally poor in Communist Russia. They all were miserable because of it.
So, essentially by wanting to get rid of rich people, Liberals want all Americans to be poor equally. Why?
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