[HoniSoit]

The SN-RF has drawn up a comprehensive legislation, and is now asking MPs from all parties for their opinions. The document is still subject to change so your opinions are important to us. We would have about two days' time to consider the document before the official confidence vote. I hope we could all work together - despite our inevitable differences - and move the simulation game forward even if there are details in the document with which you may not agree. It would be more fun for everyone, I believe, if the government is formed and the parliament opens early next week.

The people of PoFo, exercising their powers of creation and, in following the historic
examples set out by those perched on the precipice of history, and the heroism and sacrifice
of our ancestors, and the forerunners and founders of a free and sovereign nation; to the
supreme end of reshaping the Republic to establish a democratic, participatory, and self-
reliant, multiethnic and multicultural society in a just, federal and decentralized State
that embodies the values of freedom, independence, peace, solidarity, the common good, the
nation's territorial integrity, community and the rule of law for this and future
generations; guarantees the right to life, work, learning, education, social justice and
equality, without discrimination or subordination of any kind; promotes peaceful cooperation
among nations and furthers and strengthens the integration of PoFo with the world at large in
accordance with the principle of nonintervention and national self-determination of the
people, the universal and indivisible guarantee of human rights, the democratization of
imitational society, nuclear disarmament, ecological balance and environmental resources as
the common and inalienable heritage of humanity; exercising their innate power through their
representatives comprising the National Parliament, by their freely cast vote and in a
democratic Referendum, hereby ordain the following:

Omnibus Human Relief and Welfare Act.

We, the SN-RF, believe that - at a minimum - every citizen is entitled to the fullest
opportunity his life can bring him or her. We feel that as a result of this no citizen should
fail to prosper as a result of the knowledge gained for all people, to be utilized to better
all people. Therefore essential services like healthcare, education and (e.g.) employment
should not be withheld by a state with ample revenue to ensure these services.
These services are so vitally important for the people's self-realization, that their
provision cannot simply be left to chance. As such, the state, in democratic partnership with
local communities and various organisations must erect a framework for the universal
provision of these social goods. This means that all citizens are entitled to the most
advanced healthcare the nation can provide its citizens, the highest level of education that
an individual can attain, and employment through either public or private organizations.
These essential services are rendered at national cost through the processes we have outlined
below.

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Article 1: Principle of National Healthcare Act

1. Principle
i. Bill to promote the health and well-being of the individual by the creation of a uniform
standard health care plan, paid and administered through taxation of a single payer nature.

A. Funding
In accordance with the principles in S.1 it is the duty of government to promote the
principles in S.1 the government will:
1) Ensure that all citizens receive healthcare as a result of this provision.
2) Encourage developement of advanced medical practices by subsidizing research and
development of those sciences like biology, human genome, and any other field directly
related to medical research.
3) Citizens retain the option to receive healthcare on their own terms through private
sources or other foreign sources, but remain subject to the same taxation as any other
citizen not seeking private care.
4) Ensure that those injured or disabled by disease or injury retain the rights to their
employment and retain a pension during this time of disablity equaling three quarters of
their normal rate of pay.

B. Notes
The Bill will be hereby reffered to simply as the Healthcare Act.
The Federal Health and Human Welfare Committee abbr. FHHW and will administered by the
Minister of Health.

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Article 2: The Education Act: Freedom, Equality and Prosperity

1. Principles
A Bill To promote (1) the development of the individual's potential, (2) the creation of an

informed citizenry indespensible for the optimal functioning of a democracy and (3) the

production of capital necessary for economic prosperity

2. Funding
In accordance with the principles in S.1 and the duty of government to promote the principles

in S.1 the government will:
a) set up a Federal Education Commitee (hereby FEC) to administer the general provisions of

S.2
b) ensure the free education of all citizens, from kindergarten to tertiary education

(including postgraduate studies and technical education)
c) encourage development in the theoretical sciences by:

i. actively funding research in related fields
ii. ensuring the employability of PhDs in related fields
d) protect against the flight of intellectual capital
e) administer a broad Loans and Bursaries Program to ensure a minimum living standard among

postgraduate students
f) provide physical investment in secondary education

Sections 2; c,d,e and f are subject to future public spending decisions

3. Federal Education Committee
In accordance with 2.a., the FEC will be chaired by the Minister of 'Education' and assisted

by the Minister of 'Science and Technology', and 'Culture and the Arts' whose

responsibilities include:
a) the general oversight of spending
b) accountability of government for the decisions of the FEC

4. Secondary Schools and Infrastructure
In accordance with the objectives set by 2.e., the FEC will be tasked with administering a

15-year term investment in the physical infrastructure of secondary schools. The government

will provide (but not limit itself to) $2bn annually to the FEC to go toward:
a) modernizing educational facilities
b) revitalization projects, targeting deteriorated and/or deteriorating educational

facilities
c) funding and promoting extracurricular sports programs

All of Section 4 is subject to future public spending decisions

4. Notes
The Bill will be hereby reffered to simply as The Education Act
The Federal Education Comitte abbr. FEC, will be overseen by the Ministry of Education.

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Article 3: The Guarentee of Employment Act

1. Principles
i. To promote the abundance of labor throughout the nation by the creation of a national
workforce consisting of four paid service sectors, who in turn shall ultimately answer to
various ministers within the government. Should any citizen find themselves without the means
of proper private employment they may elect at any time enlist for a term of service in one
of the four sectors listed below, where they shall recieve a fair and equal wage to
comparable work available in the private sector. They may join any branch they choose, and
may receive consideration for valid work experience gained through education, work history,
and in some cases, informal knowledge. Each branch shall be answerable to it's appropriate minister.

A. Military. (Defense)
B. Domestic, non-Military. (Interior)
C. Foreign, Non-Military. (Foreign)
D. Research, Scientific. (Science)

ii.- Unions:
Every working citizen has the right to join a union without duress and may not be refused
admittance based on age, sexual orientation, private records, etc. Union employes may not be
fired simply for being members.

iii. Minimum Wage. It shall be the responisbility of all private and government employers to
pay an equitable wage that shall constitute "X", [where X shall = a fixed percentage,
considered the minimum necessary for a living wage.]

[Vera Politica]

The people of PoFo, exercising their powers of creation and, in following the historic
examples set out by those perched on the precipice of history, and the heroism and sacrifice
of our ancestors, and the forerunners and founders of a free and sovereign nation; to the
supreme end of reshaping the Republic to establish a democratic, participatory, and self-
reliant, multiethnic and multicultural society in a just, federal and decentralized State
that embodies the values of freedom, independence, peace, solidarity, the common good, the
nation's territorial integrity, community and the rule of law for this and future
generations; guarantees the right to life, work, learning, education, social justice and
equality, without discrimination or subordination of any kind; promotes peaceful cooperation
among nations and furthers and strengthens the integration of PoFo with the world at large in
accordance with the principle of nonintervention and national self-determination of the
people, the universal and indivisible guarantee of human rights, the democratization of
imitational society, nuclear disarmament, ecological balance and environmental resources as
the common and inalienable heritage of humanity; exercising their innate power through their
representatives comprising the National Parliament, by their freely cast vote and in a
democratic Referendum, hereby ordain the following:

Omnibus Human Relief and Welfare Act.

We, the SN-RF, believe that - at a minimum - every citizen is entitled to the fullest
opportunity his life can bring him or her. We feel that as a result of this no citizen should
fail to prosper as a result of the knowledge gained for all people, to be utilized to better
all people. Therefore essential services like healthcare, education and (e.g.) employment
should not be withheld by a state with ample revenue to ensure these services.
These services are so vitally important for the people's self-realization, that their
provision cannot simply be left to chance. As such, the state, in democratic partnership with
local communities and various organisations must erect a framework for the universal
provision of these social goods. This means that all citizens are entitled to the most
advanced healthcare the nation can provide its citizens, the highest level of education that
an individual can attain, and employment through either public or private organizations.
These essential services are rendered at national cost through the processes we have outlined
below.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Article 1: Principle of National Healthcare Act

1. Principle
i. Bill to promote the health and well-being of the individual by the creation of a uniform
standard health care plan, paid and administered through taxation of a single payer nature.

A. Funding
In accordance with the principles in S.1 it is the duty of government to promote the
principles in S.1 the government will:
1) Ensure that all citizens receive healthcare as a result of this provision.
2) Encourage developement of advanced medical practices by subsidizing research and
development of those sciences like biology, human genome, and any other field directly
related to medical research.
3) Citizens retain the option to receive healthcare on their own terms through private
sources or other foreign sources, but remain subject to the same taxation as any other
citizen not seeking private care.
4) Ensure that those injured or disabled by disease or injury retain the rights to their
employment and retain a pension during this time of disablity equaling three quarters of
their normal rate of pay.

B. Notes
The Bill will be hereby reffered to simply as the Healthcare Act.
The Federal Health and Human Welfare Committee abbr. FHHW and will administered by the
Minister of Health.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Article 2: The Education Act: Freedom, Equality and Prosperity

1. Principles
A Bill To promote (1) the development of the individual's potential, (2) the creation of an informed citizenry indespensible for the optimal functioning of a democracy and (3) the production of capital necessary for economic prosperity

2. Funding
In accordance with the principles in S.1 and the duty of government to promote the principles in S.1 the government will:
a) set up a Federal Education Commitee (hereby FEC) to administer the general provisions of S.2
b) ensure the free education of all citizens, from kindergarten to tertiary education (including postgraduate studies and technical education)
c) encourage development in the theoretical sciences by:
i. actively funding research in related fields
ii. ensuring the employability of PhDs in related fields
d) protect against the flight of intellectual capital
e) administer a broad Loans and Bursaries Program to ensure a minimum living standard among postgraduate students
f) provide physical investment in secondary education

Sections 2; c,d,e and f are subject to future public spending decisions

3. Federal Education Committee
In accordance with 2.a., the FEC will be chaired by the Minister of 'Education' and assisted by the Minister of 'Science and Technology', and 'Culture and the Arts' whose responsibilities include:
a) the general oversight of spending
b) accountability of government for the decisions of the FEC

4. Secondary Schools and Infrastructure
In accordance with the objectives set by 2.e., the FEC will be tasked with administering a 15-year term investment in the physical infrastructure of secondary schools. The government will provide (but not limit itself to) $2bn annually to the FEC to go toward:
a) modernizing educational facilities
b) revitalization projects, targeting deteriorated and/or deteriorating educational facilities
c) funding and promoting extracurricular sports programs

All of Section 4 is subject to future public spending decisions

4. Notes
The Bill will be hereby reffered to simply as The Education Act
The Federal Education Comitte abbr. FEC, will be overseen by the Ministry of Education.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Article 3: The Guarentee of Employment Act

1. Principles
i. To promote the abundance of labor throughout the nation by the creation of a national
workforce consisting of four paid service sectors, who in turn shall ultimately answer to
various ministers within the government. Should any citizen find themselves without the means
of proper private employment they may elect at any time enlist for a term of service in one
of the four sectors listed below, where they shall recieve a fair and equal wage to
comparable work available in the private sector. They may join any branch they choose, and
may receive consideration for valid work experience gained through education, work history,
and in some cases, informal knowledge. Each branch shall be answerable to it's appropriate minister.

A. Military. (Defense)
B. Domestic, non-Military. (Interior)
C. Foreign, Non-Military. (Foreign)
D. Research, Scientific. (Science)

ii.- Unions:
Every working citizen has the right to join a union without duress and may not be refused
admittance based on age, sexual orientation, private records, etc. Union employes may not be
fired simply for being members.

iii. Minimum Wage.
It shall be the responisbility of all private and government employers to
pay an equitable wage that shall constitute "X", [where X shall = a fixed percentage,
considered the minimum necessary for a living wage.]

Just did a little cosmetic surgery

[HoniSoit]

Nice work, Vera.

We vote on the communist parties proposed legislation here.

Come on, Falx. You know we are a pragmatic party as reflected in our bill which is why you need to keep banging on about SN-RF being extremist whereas in reality our policy is in fact not unreasonable.

[Falx]

Can we cut the bullshit political language and actually say what we mean? I got a head ache trying to read the first paragraph, correction it's one sentence

Come on, Falx.

So I'm guessing you're not communists then? Fine I'll change it to SN-RF, even though spelled out in full it means "socialism now -revolutionary front" I just thought communism was a better word than "revolution" and "socialism". And what's with that popular front that I see in sigs, should we start referring to you by that instead?

[Donna]

Ingliz has warned the SN-RF that it risks potentially becoming a centre-left bourgeoisie party.

[Nets]

I will advise the SLD to vote against this bill. I skipped the opening paragraphs.

Too broad, not enough detail. Let's take each of these issues one at a time.

Should any citizen find themselves without the means
of proper private employment they may elect at any time enlist for a term of service in one
of the four sectors listed below, where they shall recieve a fair and equal wage to
comparable work available in the private sector.

No. This needs to be a hell of a lot more restrictive, and on a timescale.

b) ensure the free education of all citizens, from kindergarten to tertiary education (including postgraduate studies and technical education)

This is not socially advisable. When something is free, it is worthless. This will utterly devalue college. The SN-RF has to face that not everyone is cut out for college, far to many people go as it is. I'd rather see funding of professional schools. I am fine with the technical training, but funding post-docs? No, let the universities do that. The state gains absolutely nothing by funding some ivory tower post doc in gender studies or some comparable crock field.

c) encourage development in the theoretical sciences by:
i. actively funding research in related fields

Yes.

ii. ensuring the employability of PhDs in related fields

Not the government's job, frankly. How in the hell does one guarantee the employment of an English Lit PhD?

e) administer a broad Loans and Bursaries Program to ensure a minimum living standard among postgraduate students

Let's restrict this to engineering and science.

c) funding and promoting extracurricular sports programs

Why sports? Why not a diverse basket of extracurriculars? Not everyone is an athlete, we should fund other recreational endeavors as well like orchestras, mock trial, Model UN, Math clubs, etc.

[HoniSoit]

I will advise the SLD to vote against this bill.

Nets - you have made some good points on the specifics. We will review those points. On the whole though, you have to admit it's a pretty good document for the first legislation ever to be introduced so I don't think it deserves to be dismissed out of hand.

Plus the point of the simulation is to negotiate. It's not really interesting if the first reaction is simply to vote a bill down without having engaged in some negotiation. Instead, you and your party could make certain suggestion of changes in exchange for your support.

[Nets]

Come on, Falx. You know we are a pragmatic party

Yea, a party with a machine gun in its logo comes across as real pragmatic.

Back to the bill....

d) protect against the flight of intellectual capital

So we are going to get into a salary contest with the United States? Good luck.

You have made some good points on the specifics. We will review those points. On the whole, however, you have to admit it's a pretty good document for the first legislation ever so I don't think it deserves to be voted down.

Plus the point of the simulation is to negotiate. It's not really interesting if the first reaction is simply to vote a bill down without having engaged in some negotiation.

I should say "voted down in its current form". It has good intentions but is too expensive and too unworkable at present. Plus, voting it down would have political benefits as it would be a political defeat for the SN-RF. This is a political simulation.

[ingliz]

I view the AK in the logo in much the same way as I view the UK Labour Party singing the "Red Flag" ie. The more bourgeois a 'left' party becomes, the more overtly revolutionary their superficial rhetoric and symbolism.

[HoniSoit]

So we are going to get into a salary contest with the United States? Good luck.

No, we are not going to get into a salary contest with anyone. Instead, the point is to persuade educated menial and mental workers to contribute to the society which have provided the education and other opportunities for them. I don't see how it could be a bad thing.

I will stick to the main points you have made:

This is not socially advisable. When something is free, it is worthless. This will utterly devalue college. The SN-RF has to face that not everyone is cut out for college, far to many people go as it is.

Here, you are really misrepresenting what we have proposed.

I don't see how making education accessible to everyone would devalue college. We are not suggesting in this bill that everyone would have to go to college. However, for those who have the talent and made the efforts to study hard they should not be denied of the opportunity simply because of financial reasons.

Not the government's job, frankly. How in the hell does one guarantee the employment of an English Lit PhD?

Here you are also misreading what we propose. We proposed to ensure the employability of PhDs in related fields, that is to say, we hope to work to improve their chance of being employed in their related fields. We are definitely not saying they have to be employed by the government, nor are we saying we would guarantee their employment.

Why sports? Why not a diverse basket of extracurriculars? Not everyone is an athlete, we should fund other recreational endeavors as well like orchestras, mock trial, Model UN, Math clubs, etc.

That's a fair point, Nets.

Too broad, not enough detail.

To be fair, it is extremely difficult to go into 'enough detail' when we are playing with a fictional country about which we have practically little details.

On the whole, you haven't really challenged the bill in any fundamental way. You pointed out your disagreement on a few specific points which we can work on.

I hope we can all be pragmatic and work together on these issues and assess them on their merits.

[Vera Politica]

This is not socially advisable. When something is free, it is worthless. This will utterly devalue college. The SN-RF has to face that not everyone is cut out for college, far to many people go as it is. I'd rather see funding of professional schools. I am fine with the technical training, but funding post-docs? No, let the universities do that. The state gains absolutely nothing by funding some ivory tower post doc in gender studies or some comparable crock field.

There a few objections and points you outline here. Some which could be conceded, others which would go against the principles of our party, so lets go through them just to get a sense where you stand Nets
1) You object by stating that when something is 'free' is is 'worthless' in the sense, of course, that you are assuming that a free education would lead to MORE people within college.
- to address this issue is quite simple. We are not advocating, as far as I stand, a vast increase in the number of places available in undergraduate or postgraduate studies. Rather, by making university education a viable option for ANYONE and KEEPING the placed fixed and/or determined at the University's discretion, this policy actually makes applications more competitive by broadening the number of applications and possible applicants. It has, in other words, the opposite effect to your objection. Is my proposition, here, unreasonable in this light?

2) on 'funding of professional schools'... professional schools already receive the most private funding as these professions are most attractive for capital investment. There is no sign of underfunding in professional schools, and I don't think the government need to take an active approach to professional schooling only, at the expense of other sectors. (I assume by professional you mean Law and Medicine)

3) "The state gains absolutely nothing by funding some ivory tower post doc in gender studies or some comparable crock field." it is consistent with the principle of encouraging an informed citizenry, a principle outlined in S1. of Article 2. But I am not sure what your comparative criteria is for 'crockness', demarcations between science and pseudoscience is still an unsolved problem in philosophy and logic, if this is what you mean by 'crock' (i.e. pseudoscientific). The statement you made, thus, is ideological and without substance. Could you please elaborate on what you mean by 'crock' and what it means that it will not 'benefit the state'.... is the sole purpose of legislation the benefit of the state?

So, again, half your statement is based on an unfounded rigidity toward 'scientific' fields as opposed to 'pseudoscientific' ones, curiously without a 'scientific' criteria to demarcate between both fields. Your objections on this issue, then, based on this unfounded assumption are unwarranted and have no place in parliament. It is simple ideological banter, in my opinion.

I think that we can come to a pragmatic consensus on issue #1 however, making my point more explicit within the legislation itself.

EDIT: Nets, your concerns may have been addressed by a new re-draft.

[HoniSoit]

Can we cut the bullshit political language and actually say what we mean? I got a head ache trying to read the first paragraph

You people are hard to please.

Dr House specifically requested that the legislation to include 'a brief general statement of purpose (in very broad terms what the party intends to pursue if elected)'. I think his request is fair so we did exactly that with the opening paragraph. You have to admit that a brief general statement of purpose is meant to merely state our values and where we want to take the society - it's not meant to be substantive - the substantive issues are to be dealt with in the following bills. Look at the party philosophies presented by other parties in this thread - they're also 'bullshit political language' according to you. We are not doing more than what we have been asked to do and what other parties have done.

[Vera Politica]

After considering some of the concerns voiced here and some concerns within the SN-RF itself, a revised version of the Education Act reads as follows:

Article 2: The Education Act: Freedom, Equality and Prosperity

1. Principles
A Bill To promote (1) the development of the individual's potential, (2) the creation of an informed citizenry indespensible for the optimal functioning of a democracy and (3) the production of capital necessary for economic prosperity

2. Funding
In accordance with the principles in S.1 and the duty of government to promote the principles in S.1 the government will:
a) set up a Federal Education Commitee (hereby FEC) to administer the general provisions of S.2
b) ensure the free education of all citizens, from kindergarten to first-level tertiary education. Postgraduate studies and professional studies will be funded at the university’s discretion and by the university
c) encourage development in the theoretical sciences by:
i. actively funding research in related fields
ii. Assisting PhDs in finding employment in related fields
d) protect against the flight of intellectual capital
e) administer a broad Loans and Bursaries Program to help offset living expenses among postgraduate students
f) provide physical investment in secondary education

Sections 2; c,d,e and f are subject to future public spending decisions

3. Federal Education Committee
In accordance with 2.a., the FEC will be chaired by the Minister of 'Education' and assisted by the Minister of 'Science and Technology', and 'Culture and the Arts' whose responsibilities include:
a) the general oversight of spending
b) accountability of government for the decisions of the FEC

4. Secondary Schools and Infrastructure
In accordance with the objectives set by 2.e., the FEC will be tasked with administering a 15-year term investment in the physical infrastructure of secondary schools. The government will provide (but not limit itself to) $2bn annually to the FEC to go toward:
a) modernizing educational facilities
b) revitalization projects, targeting deteriorated and/or deteriorating educational facilities
c) funding and promoting extracurricular programs

All of Section 4 is subject to future public spending decisions

5. Notes
The Bill will be hereby reffered to simply as The Education Act
The Federal Education Comitte abbr. FEC, will be overseen by the Ministry of Education.

[Demosthenes]

I'm sorry Nets, but you are being completely unreasonable in my opinion. I realize very well that as a former PUC and a very right wing voice within the PUC that our entire philosophy runs counter to yours, to start with.

I also find it a little disappointing that power is somehwat behind your blanket denial of the bill, but I guess that's part of the game.

It makes me wonder why we should even try to make anything to suit you, as it appears you'll simply be against us no matter what we propose.

No. This needs to be a hell of a lot more restrictive, and on a timescale.

For someone wanting so much more detail, you're really not giving any in return. What does this even mean? The timescale comment is understood, but restricitve how? So it looks just like current US policy? I don't think so, IF that's what you mean.

When something is free, it is worthless. This will utterly devalue college.

This isn't even logical, and yet I hesitate to even try and explain why because I have the feelin your going to feel this way regardless, again, I'm left feeling that pandering to you is needless compromise because you'll never accept us anyway without us simply becoming the PUC, which isn't going to happen.

Not the government's job, frankly. How in the hell does one guarantee the employment of an English Lit PhD?

Excuse me? What's wrong with English Lit degrees anyway? I think what you are missing is that government, in our view serves the people, and the questions to be asked are: "How may the government better serve us". Because all the old questions "How do the people serve teh government" end in a small group making and shaping policy for everyone else and calling it "National Interest".

Let's restrict this to engineering and science.

Why on earth would we want to do that?

Why sports? Why not a diverse basket of extracurriculars? Not everyone is an athlete, we should fund other recreational endeavors as well like orchestras, mock trial, Model UN, Math clubs, etc

Actually, I don't totally disagree here, though I do believe in sports, I think you do mention some good points otherwise.

Yea, a party with a machine gun in its logo comes across as real pragmatic.

Quit being a drama queen, it's a game... . You know that doesn't mean anything. OOOO an evil machine guny wuny...C'mon man, Play fair...

[Dr House]

I am advising my party not to vote for this bill. It is too vague, too broad, and makes promises we may not be able to keep, especially during the first term of the RoP parliament. The finances left behind by the military government are in an awful state, to say the least. Simply put, we cannot afford a full safety net yet.

[MistyTiger]

I'm working on rewriting the Preamble. Keep your shirts on.

[Demosthenes]

I am advising my party not to vote for this bill. It is too vague, too broad, and makes promises we may not be able to keep, especially during the first term of the RoP parliament. The finances left behind by the military government are in an awful state, to say the least. Simply put, we cannot afford a full safety net yet.

No offense House, but you are on record way in advance stating you and your party will vote against us regardless, so I am again wondering why we should even try to write anything to suit you?

[Cheesecake_Marmalade]

Article 3 is simple unacceptable. Whatever interest I had in voting for the SN-RF just to keep the game moving along has completely deteriorated by this shocking reminder of just how left wing, immoral, and terrible at economics this government would be. Quite frankly, we can't afford any of this BS.

[Dr House]

No offense House, but you are on record way in advance stating you and your party will vote against us regardless, so I am again wondering why we should even try to write anything to suit you?

Well after some consideration, I've decided to re-think that position. The UPF is far too large to ignore anyway, and you guys seem to be more willing to work with the other parties to the left of youse this time around.

Still, to make a full guarantee of social safety this early on is folly, as government finances cannot support it.

And Cheesecake, don't be so brash. They may have gone too far with Article 3, but in general we support guaranteed employment too, remember?

[MistyTiger]

We are working on the drafting still. We will listen to feedback. Try to be patient with us and we'll be patient with you. Okay?