- 27 May 2023 13:36
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I have a question for theists that I have struggled with since as long as I can remember, and which, for me, seems have persistently been a difficult barrier to get to belief in God.
The question I have is how to reconcile the idea of traditional masculinity with Judeo-Christian philosophy.
Why is it that on one hand conservative Christians will claim that they value things like independence and self-reliance, but at the same time they will grovel and submit to a force outside of themselves for comfort and meaning? What kind of man is this? It strikes me as very beta-like behavior, and as someone who can appreciate traditional masculinity, I just don't get how you can justify such a subservient outlook on life. I always had the idea that an alpha male finds his strength and purpose from within himself rather than turning to outside forces to save him. I think self-reliance and independence is a wonderful thing. But if you're constantly praying and asking God for help when things get tough then clearly you're not self-reliant or independent.
How is kneeling, groveling, and submitting consistent with masculine ideals?
The question I have is how to reconcile the idea of traditional masculinity with Judeo-Christian philosophy.
Why is it that on one hand conservative Christians will claim that they value things like independence and self-reliance, but at the same time they will grovel and submit to a force outside of themselves for comfort and meaning? What kind of man is this? It strikes me as very beta-like behavior, and as someone who can appreciate traditional masculinity, I just don't get how you can justify such a subservient outlook on life. I always had the idea that an alpha male finds his strength and purpose from within himself rather than turning to outside forces to save him. I think self-reliance and independence is a wonderful thing. But if you're constantly praying and asking God for help when things get tough then clearly you're not self-reliant or independent.
How is kneeling, groveling, and submitting consistent with masculine ideals?