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It is often known that children and youth (teenagers) in Britain and the United States are badly behaved. Often they will talk back to their parents, swear at them and sometimes even hit them. It seems as though once they become young adults that they are absolutely uncontrollable. Their parents will be at a loss as to how to control them. However in other countries like in Germany, France, Japan or Korea the children are far more well behaved.

Why is it that in the Anglosphere there is such a problem in regards to disciplining children and youth?
#14326163
I've never seen anything like that in my entire life.

My nephew is five years old, and he regularly kicks and punches his parents if he doesn't like what they're saying to him.
#14326194
mikema63 wrote:I've never seen anything like that in my entire life.

I have.

I'd say it's a combination of factors:
- The overall conditions of modern liberal society which encourages individuality and pressures children to succeed and compete not only with each other but their parents' generation for opportunities in the global economy from an early age.
- The culture of modern society encourages narcissistic and self important behavior. Kids are shown an image that it's cool to be rebellious and do things their own way - again related to the liberal cult of the individual.
- Corporal punishment is strongly discouraged and now considered child abuse, whereas before some form of light physical punishment was common to reel in unruly children. I often hear this from the older generations "In my day if we behaved like that, my parents would give me an ass whooping." What do modern parents do for punishment? Usually ground their children or send them to their room. Then they just wind up sitting inside all day playing video games or something. Some punishment.
- Modern society is moving at such a fast pace both technologically and socially - it exaggerates the gaps between generations and makes it harder for both parents and their children to understand each other. Older generations struggle to keep up with modern technology and societal changes making it easier for children to write off their parents as "out of touch" or "not with the times".
- The way children are educated generally reinforces all these notions.

Combine these factors with a lack of counterbalance in being taught to respect their elders and there you go.
#14327118
I'm not quite sure the OP statement is accurate--can you be more specific on what you mean by "well behaved" and then provide some data? Also, is there a universal standard by which kids can be considered "well-behaved"? Are not "manners" cultural in the first place? I'm not fully on board with assuming the OP is correct...
#14327136
I know of two stereotypes that keep getting reinforced:
1) "Cheating" - I usually tell the Brits they are pathological rule dodgers and they tell me we Austrians (they just call me German, actually) are obsessed with rules.
2) Vandalism - I've heard comments from Brits in Austria that they are surprised at the lack of vandalism in parks, playgrounds, public automats (e.g. cigarettes).
#14327163
Poor parenting is the cause. It's just that simple.

Parent's don't spend much time with the children(VERY important), and don't teach them to respect elders and other social etiquette. They get lazy and psoil their kids until they are unruly bastards.

Corporal punishment, combined with talking to the children to explain the reason for it, works wonders. You are, however, better off usually using positive reinforcement for good behavior, than bad.

A well disciplined child is a good child, and also well loved by all. This carries forward to their teen years.
#14327191
"Cheating" - I usually tell the Brits they are pathological rule dodgers and they tell me we Austrians (they just call me German, actually) are obsessed with rules.

The rules are made and reinforced by the toffs for their own benefit. It is therefore not merely our right as free citizens, but our solemn duty, to dodge these rules at every opportunity.
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Potemkin wrote:The rules are made and reinforced by the toffs for their own benefit. It is therefore not merely our right as free citizens, but our solemn duty, to dodge these rules at every opportunity.

Heh, that's the excuse! But in my experience it does not matter where a rule originates, the first step is to think about circumventing, exploiting, or disregarding it.

I'm particularly dismayed by recycle bins for plastic being used for all kinds of rubbish that quite obviously doesn't belong in there. It's a disgrace.
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Political Interest wrote:
Why is it that in the Anglosphere there is such a problem in regards to disciplining children and youth?


Why is obeying denial virtuous? If one nmever learns what real is obeying reality's rules, when will absolute power corrupts absolutely get repaired?

The future is now all the time, why and how is that real, regardless the multiple truths time changes space?

Liberty doesn't grant social identity rights to ignore self containment to make rules to believe self evident doesn't exist and social stages of societal evolution is the only way to prevent self fulfilling prophecy using planned obsolescences and plausible deniability to make sure nobody knows the physical absolutes now is physical eternity eternally this moment.

Respect authority, what is authority? ideas, ideal's means, or ideologues being placed in history while subjects are seldom listed, just listed as the leadership's people objectively speaking.

It takes a name to become a who, it takes conceived to become a lifetime in this atmosphere. Respect that, social evolutionists, educating denying real for the sake of humanity's leaders always in power to command social demands upon society so the few regulate what everyone else must believe or else each ancestor added into this atmosphere currently alive surviving as male or female bodies of genetic continuation in a moment that never ends changing details never duplicated universally.
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Kaiserschmarrn wrote:I know of two stereotypes that keep getting reinforced:
1) "Cheating" - I usually tell the Brits they are pathological rule dodgers and they tell me we Austrians (they just call me German, actually) are obsessed with rules.
2) Vandalism - I've heard comments from Brits in Austria that they are surprised at the lack of vandalism in parks, playgrounds, public automats (e.g. cigarettes).
I always felt at home in Germany, but Austria is scary. Its like being in a fifties Hollywood film set even the mountains are kept clean and tidy.
#14327875
I always felt at home in Germany, but Austria is scary.

Germans are okay kind of guys, but Austrians are creepy.
#14327884
mikema63 wrote:I've never seen anything like that in my entire life.

I have, although I don't live in the Anglosphere. I think it has something to do with feminism, as fathers are less willing or welcome to discipline their children, while mothers simply can not be bothered by whatever their children do even in public.
#14327891
Rich wrote:I always felt at home in Germany, but Austria is scary. Its like being in a fifties Hollywood film set even the mountains are kept clean and tidy.

That's because everybody who is caught littering in the mountains ends up in a basement for the rest of his life.

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