[Tainari88]

Most people, most of the time, have only the vaguest, tangential contact with reality. Facts don’t really matter very much to them; they simply find them confusing. Feelings are all that really matter. The song was anti-German - “the Siegfried Line” sounds German and was something the Germans seemed to care about. That was good enough for your average Tommy Atkins, @Rich.

Aha who is Tommy Atkins? Is he like John Doe?

[Doug64]

Aha who is Tommy Atkins? Is he like John Doe?

"Tommy Atkins" was the name given to your generic late Victorian-age British infantryman. There's a poem by that name by Rudyard Kipling included in my favorite poems file.

[Tainari88]

"Tommy Atkins" was the name given to your generic late Victorian-age British infantryman. There's a poem by that name by Rudyard Kipling included in my favorite poems file.

Never heard of that name. But that does not surprise me I never was into Victorian-age British infantryman.

The only thing I remember from Rudyard Kipling was this part that was made into that movie from Disney.

What is the real story of The Jungle Book?
Origins. The stories in The Jungle Book were inspired in part by the ancient Indian fable texts such as the Panchatantra and the Jataka tales. For example, an older moral-filled mongoose and snake version of the "Rikki-Tikki-Tavi" story by Kipling is found in Book 5 of Panchatantra.

[Doug64]

Never heard of that name. But that does not surprise me I never was into Victorian-age British infantryman.

The only thing I remember from Rudyard Kipling was this part that was made into that movie from Disney.

I remember that cartoon, I enjoyed it as a kid.

I was wrong, the Kipling poem is just titled "Tommy"

I went into a public 'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap.
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes," when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!

[Tainari88]

I remember that cartoon, I enjoyed it as a kid.

I was wrong, the Kipling poem is just titled "Tommy"

I went into a public 'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap.
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Tommy, 'ow's yer soul?"
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes," when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Tommy, fall be'ind,"
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!

Is that common for London English to be dropping the H sound at the beginning of 'eroes'? A lot of H sounds are dropped completely. That is very British isn't it?

[Doug64]

Is that common for London English to be dropping the H sound at the beginning of 'eroes'? A lot of H sounds are dropped completely. That is very British isn't it?

IIRC, Kipling was going with cockney, east London working-class.

[Doug64]

April 23, Tuesday

New tax puts up the cost of beer and cigarettes

British taxpayers are called up in a big way for the war effort today. In Parliament, Sir John Simon, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, announces budget proposals for higher income tax and surtax. He also increases duties on tobacco, beer, spirits, and matches and announces higher postal and telephone charges.

On top of all that there will be a novel new “Purchase Tax” on the sale of most goods not already heavily taxed. Exactly how it will work has still to be decided. The standard tax rate will be 7/6 per £ (37.5%), and surtax starts on the income of over £1,500 ($6,000) a year instead of £2,000. Cigarettes will now cost 1/5 (7p/28¢) for 20, and beer is up to a penny a pint while whiskey will cost 16/- (80p/$3.22) a bottle.

The rate for a three-minute telephone trunk call will be 1/2 (6p/24¢) above fifty miles. There will be a basic charge of 9d (4p/15¢) for nine words instead of 6d, and greetings telegrams will cost 1/- instead of 9d. Sir John explains that this War Budget is intended to curb spending. He warns that when peace returns the government will take effective action against those making “colossal war fortunes.”

[Doug64]

April 27, Saturday

More women to do German war work

The German Employment Ministry today drafts a confidential program to make registration compulsory for all women aged 15 to 40. As a result, many women who have never been employed and so not registered with an employment office will become available to work in industry.

How women will react to the measure is uncertain since a woman’s pay for any given job is, on average, only 80 percent of what a man would get. And the idea of general compulsory employment for women is opposed by some senior Nazis, such as Goering, because it runs counter to the Nazi doctrine of women as domestic creatures.

[Doug64]

April 29, Monday

Empire’s air training scheme takes off

A plan to train 20,000 aircrew in Canada as part of the Empire’s war effort is set to take off. The deal with Britain is said to impose a “staggering responsibility” on Canada, where 40,000 experts are needed to teach flying at 58 centers. The first opens next month at Camp Borden, where the first qualified pilots will be kept as instructors. Observers and air gunners will also be trained under the deal signed by the Prime Minister, William Mackenzie King, and Lord Riverdale. Australia hopes to provide some 10,000 aircrew each year for the RAF; although some RAAF squadrons are joining the fight as complete units, it seems the Australian role will be as a training service for the RAF. Other significant help is coming from Rhodesia and individual Americans.

Britain’s Air Ministry first proposed a Commonwealth Air Training Scheme before 1939, but ironically, the Canadians were unenthusiastic. The outbreak of war has rapidly changed people’s minds.

[Doug64]

April 30, Tuesday

Heavy aerial bombardment forces Allied retreat

The Allied adventure in Norway has failed to prevent the Germans from advancing, and singularly failed to achieve its main objectives—the ejection of the Germans from Narvik and Trondheim.

Instead, the ill-prepared force is subject to continual dive-bombing by Stukas and, with neither anti-aircraft guns nor artillery (they were left behind on embarkation), is steadily retreating in front of General von Falkenhorst’s troops which are pushing up from Oslo to link up with General Eduard Dietl’s 169th Mountain Division in Narvik and Trondheim.

The British generals face a formidable opponent in Dietl, a superb commander. Their troops are no match for his tough Alpine companies, which, though outnumbered, are easily holding off halfhearted and poorly organized Allied attempts to dislodge them.

Fleet Air Arm has key role for Allies

As the German advance into Norway continues, Allied resistance depends increasingly for air cover and reconnaissance on the Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm. Mountainous terrain ashore and German occupation of the populated south have made this an air-sea campaign, and Norway is beyond the range of RAF fighters from Scotland. The answer is the Fleet Air Arm’s Blackburn Skua dive-bombers and Roc fighters. The Skua carries its 500-pound bomb in a nose-down power dive from 11,000 feet to 2,000 feet in 25 seconds before releasing it onto the target, usually an enemy ship. On April 11th Skuas hit German vessels in Trondheim fjord and then sank a cruiser offshore. The Roc, with a rear gunner, is a slow but reliable fighter useful for aerial reconnaissance.

Despite its successes on land, Germany has suffered setbacks at sea. Before Oslo was taken the shore battery helped destroy one cruiser, the Blucher. At Narvik, ten destroyers are lost for two British ships. The loss of vessels on this scale greatly reduces Hitler’s scope for a seaborne assault on Britain.

Hitler plans his attack on Western Europe

Confident that he will soon be able to see off the Allied forces in Norway, Hitler today turns his attention to the planned offensive in Western Europe. He tells General Alfred Jodl, the Chief of Staff to Field Marshal Keitel, and other military commanders to be prepared to launch operations on May 5th, or within 24 hours of any later day.

The Dutch and Belgian governments have received intelligence reports of an imminent German attack through the Vatican, which has been alerted by German officers opposed to Hitler’s plans. Intercepts of the Vatican messages, decoded by the Germans, have been shown to Hitler. He intends to go ahead notwithstanding.

Nazi thugs herd Jews into ghetto

SS thugs have established a total reign of terror over Jews in Lodz, Poland. Women have been forced to dance naked at gunpoint, and all Jews are forced to wear armbands with the Star of David. The SS set fire to the synagogue and summoned the fire department—to stop the fire from spreading to other buildings. Jews have been herded into a ghetto which at midnight tonight will be sealed off.

The ghetto is one of the most rundown areas of the city, comprising 32,000 mainly one-room apartments, only 700 of which have running water. Into these cramped and unsanitary conditions the Nazis have kicked, beaten, and prodded 160,000 people.

[Doug64]

May 1, Wednesday

Ireland seeks US aid in maintaining its war neutrality

In a desperate move to remain out of the war, the Irish government appeals today to the United States to guarantee its neutrality. Ireland—the only Commonwealth nation that hasn’t rallied to the Allied cause—chose neutrality when it considered its position shortly before the outbreak of war.

The cool attitude of the Prime Minister, Eamon de Valera, to the British cause and his refusal to allow British convoy escorts to be based in Irish ports have infuriated many British politicians, so much so that there is a genuine fear of a British invasion in Dublin. Equally, the possibility of a German invasion isn’t being ruled out.

Although Washington is unlikely to offer a formal guarantee, the Irish-American lobby is a powerful political force in a country whose support is vital to Britain.

Britain has appealed to de Valera to join a defense union with Northern Ireland. The former British detainee is unlikely to cooperate. The Irish government is being markedly active against the IRA, however, with Irish garda cooperating with British police in the hunt for terrorists. Despite de Valera’s views, thousands of his countrymen are crossing the Northern Ireland border to volunteer for the British forces, so Britain will likely refrain from hostile moves.

[Doug64]

April 5, Friday

Chamberlain: Hitler has missed the bus

Britain’s Prime Minister tells a Conservative Party meeting today that after seven months of war he feels ten times as confident of victory as he did at the start. In this unusually buoyant mood, Mr. Chamberlain says, “One thing is certain. Hitler has missed the bus.”

The speech appears to be aimed at dispelling some signs of public impatience about the conduct of the war. Mr. Chamberlain recalls that Germany was turned into an armed camp in the years before the war while Britain postponed rapid rearmament so long as any hope of peace remained.

He goes on, “It was natural then to expect that the enemy would take advantage of his initial superiority to make an endeavor to overwhelm us and France before we had time to make good our deficiencies. Is it not extraordinary that no such attempt was made?”

Having made his point, he declares, “Whatever the reason, Hitler has very little margin of strength still to call upon.”

[Potemkin]

April 5, Friday

Chamberlain: Hitler has missed the bus

Britain’s Prime Minister tells a Conservative Party meeting today that after seven months of war he feels ten times as confident of victory as he did at the start. In this unusually buoyant mood, Mr. Chamberlain says, “One thing is certain. Hitler has missed the bus.”

If the French had been their usual warlike selves in 1940, he would have been right.

The speech appears to be aimed at dispelling some signs of public impatience about the conduct of the war. Mr. Chamberlain recalls that Germany was turned into an armed camp in the years before the war while Britain postponed rapid rearmament so long as any hope of peace remained.

He goes on, “It was natural then to expect that the enemy would take advantage of his initial superiority to make an endeavor to overwhelm us and France before we had time to make good our deficiencies. Is it not extraordinary that no such attempt was made?”

I agree with this.

Having made his point, he declares, “Whatever the reason, Hitler has very little margin of strength still to call upon.”

Events were soon to prove that this statement fell rather short of being prescient. But no-one could have predicted how events would play out. Which is the fundamental problem with wars in general, in fact.