- 19 Aug 2015 12:19
#14592400
Since the disaster first made headlines there considerable effort has been exerted by both sides to try to prove the complicity of the other side in orchestrating the shoot down of Mh-17. Throughout this Putin/DPR-did it crowd have generally presented the mot credible arguments with websites like Bellingcat presenting supposedly indisputable proof. However, since then, and particularly recently, concerns have been raised about the credibility of Bellingcat and its methodology. Questions have been raised (by independent bloggers) about the photographs it uses and how it uses them:
http://7mei.nl/2015/05/18/mh17-buk-launch-photos-are-cheats/
http://7mei.nl/2015/07/26/mh17-buk-plume-burns-witness-part-i/
http://7mei.nl/2015/02/02/mh17-bellingcat-photo-proof-spoof/
The most credible intervention against Bellingcat has been a presentation given by Almaz-Antey, the producers of the BUK missile systems which said that a) the type of missile used has not been produced in Russia since the 90s and b) if the missile could not have been fired from Snizhne, as Bellingcat suggests.
http://7mei.nl/2015/06/03/mh17-bad-day-for-the-putin-did-it-crowd/
Here is the full presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsohFzbJ-vs
Instead the company argues that the missile was shot from an area that was under Ukrainian control on the day the aircraft was downed as that would be consistent with the damage inflict among other factors. Although questions have already been raised about Bellincat's credibility and the credibility of its sources the fact that the missile was not fired from Snizhne means that any evidence that they have presented to suggest it was, even if it is genuine, does not matter.
http://7mei.nl/2015/05/18/mh17-buk-launch-photos-are-cheats/
http://7mei.nl/2015/07/26/mh17-buk-plume-burns-witness-part-i/
http://7mei.nl/2015/02/02/mh17-bellingcat-photo-proof-spoof/
The most credible intervention against Bellingcat has been a presentation given by Almaz-Antey, the producers of the BUK missile systems which said that a) the type of missile used has not been produced in Russia since the 90s and b) if the missile could not have been fired from Snizhne, as Bellingcat suggests.
http://7mei.nl/2015/06/03/mh17-bad-day-for-the-putin-did-it-crowd/
Here is the full presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsohFzbJ-vs
Instead the company argues that the missile was shot from an area that was under Ukrainian control on the day the aircraft was downed as that would be consistent with the damage inflict among other factors. Although questions have already been raised about Bellincat's credibility and the credibility of its sources the fact that the missile was not fired from Snizhne means that any evidence that they have presented to suggest it was, even if it is genuine, does not matter.