[The Red Goblin]

It's always amazing how replies will deviate from the original post

My four are as follows, and not in order of importance, per se, but listed chronologically:

1] Octavian Caesar [aka Augustus]

2] Charlemagne (aka Chuck the Great, Karl der Grosse)

3] Karl Marx

4] Martin Luthor King

[Adrien]

A very french choice comrade. Then again the French always do thinks best...and with style! Vive La France! (I do hope thats phrased right!)

Hehe, thanks!

It's true that it sounded a little bit too frenchy...

[Yeddi]

That fucker enslaved my people. Good thing Moses smoked his ass with those plagues, killed his first born son good.

The Hebrews in my understanding weren't enslaved... they were highly skilled workers in Eygpt, Moses led them out into the "promised land", it was Ramses II who let them go... well ordered them to go.

I would place Napoleon up there, his reforms around europe, wonderful.

Ghandi.. like boondock said (i must say boon you have the greatest way of putting things.) "he can kick your ass without actually resorting to violence ..."

[The Old CPGB]

How about Nelson Mandela.
Incidently, the She-Devil(Margaret Thatcher) once called him a commie terrorist. Evil old witch!

[sokath]

Well, Nelson Mandela WAS a communist for a while, something which I didn't actually know until a couple of days ago.

Odd.

S./

[The Old CPGB]

Yes but I am a Communist too, as my user-name sort of indicates.
So it wasn't the fallaciousness of the statement, just the She-Devil's hatred of all things Socialist which which irritated me!.

[El Cid]

1. Ghandi
2. Churchill
3. Saddam Hussein
4. Osama Bin Laden
(Woo that was fun)

[grinner]

Whats a leader? One who has the best intensions or one who gets others to follow?
If it's the warm hearted, Ghandi tops the list. If it's the latter, Hitler certainly is the greatest leader of all time.
Perhaps it's the mission that defines the leader. In this case i can't think of a better mission than the one Jesus lead.
Maybe the best leaders don't lead at all...

[Putinist]

Whats a leader? One who has the best intensions or one who gets others to follow?
If it's the warm hearted, Ghandi tops the list. If it's the latter, Hitler certainly is the greatest leader of all time.

Oh, grinner, grinner, grinner, you're on shaky ground there mate.

"Uncle Joe" for me. Putin aswell.

[seifer almasy]

1. Saladin.
2. Genghis Khan.
3. Charlemagne.
4. Napoleon Bonaparte.
5. Suleyman I.

There we go.

[grinner]

Shaky ground?
Anyone who can get thousands to follow such a horrible cause is nothing less than a great leader. That's not opinion. It's fact. Thats what great leaders do... recruit loyal followers. Doesn't make it a good fact and shouldn't place me on your shaky ground.

[John Doe]

I would put sad old Abraham Lincoln somewhere on that list. An astute and hardnosed politician who had a deep well of human decency at his core.

With malice towards none and charity towards all.

[Free the Six Counties!]

here's my list:
1. Ghandi

2. Martin Luther King Jr.

3. Hammurabi

4. Saladin

5. Julius Caesar

There you go... though perhaps not in that order.

[Demosthenes]

1. Pete Rozelle
2. Paul Tagliabue
3. Gary Bettman
4. Odin


I keep seeing this thread pop up and never can settle on anybody so, I figgered eh? why not?

[Ixa]

To hell with the guide lines.

1. Stalin

2. Stalin

3. Stalin

4. Stalin

That is my real list. But I will make a better one just for this occasion:

1. Stalin

2. Lenin

3. Mao

4. Kim Jong-il

[Gothmog]

-Hmmmm.....I will mention some forgotten leaders here.

1-Ciro, the founder of Persian empire

2-Alexander the Great, who also was able to build a large empire in his short life

3-Saint Paul, the leader who make Christianism become a universal religion, instead of only a Jewish sect

4-Mohamed, the creator of Islam

5-Isabel and Fernando, who transformed Spain in a superpower

6-Abraham Lincoln, who kept the USA as a unified country, allowing him to become a superpower

7-Among the Marxists, the greatest leaders are Stalin, Lenin, Mao and Ho Chi Mihn

8-Bismark, my favorite right winger leader