[KurtFF8]

Yes rich get richer quicker then others.... nothing wrong with that.

You must have not read the article.

[Finfinder]

What you quoted wasn't a question. But yes sometimes answering a question with a question is how people communicate.

In your case it was to avoid the facts.

As for what could have done differently: there are many policies and actions. For example: reversing the large (unnecessary) tax cuts to the rich, more stimulus checks, guarantee health insurance for everyone, nationalization of certain companies to ensure they're producing what's needed, etc. etc.

Those are elections issues
Please explain then why Democrats plan on spending Trillions of dollars between health care and the Green New Deal and are on record against more Covid relief. Nationalising companies you think that can be done with an executive order? Tax cuts that should do it. Your arguments are nothing but token signals to the echo chamber they literally have no impact on your OP.

Not a single one of them is a Communist. While I think this narrative about the Democrats blocking everything is nothing more than a Fox News talking point: again I'm not here to defend the Democrats. The previous posted implied that they're "my ilk" which is laughable.

FOX news? Are you joking its a fact maybe only FOX New reports it, but do some homework before you look anymore foolish. These are actual votes and deliberation in congress look it up read a book.

Do they want to nationalize health care, the energy industry, limit free speech, end democratic elections, imprison their political rivals ?? just to to name a few ...... sounds like commies to me.

There are other people on the ballot. But political movements aren't just about single Presidential elections. You're confusing lesser evils voting with overall support. I reject lesser evil voting, but some socialists and communists still engage in the practice.

Like whom ? You are confusing fantasy with reality. This is the system we have. You are a "do nothing" I guess making false claims and complaining on an obscure interment forum makes you feel good but doesn't make you factually correct.

[KurtFF8]

Those are elections issues
Please explain then why Democrats plan on spending Trillions of dollars between health care and the Green New Deal and are on record against more Covid relief. Nationalising companies you think that can be done with an executive order? Tax cuts that should do it. Your arguments are nothing but token signals to the echo chamber they literally have no impact on your OP.

I'm not interested in what the plans of the Democrats are. They're just the other of the two capitalist imperialist parties. You can keep pretending that you're talking to a Democrat, but it doesn't make it true.

You asked for a list of some examples of what could be done, and because you don't like the answers, they don't count. Shocker.

FOX news? Are you joking its a fact maybe only FOX New reports it, but do some homework before you look anymore foolish. These are actual votes and deliberation in congress look it up read a book.

It's not my opinion, it's an indisputable fact that none of them are Communists.

Do they want to nationalize health care, the energy industry, limit free speech, end democratic elections, imprison their political rivals ?? just to to name a few ...... sounds like commies to me.

None of them actually want to do any of these things. Either way, I'm getting the feelign that you don't know what the word "Communist" actually means.

Like whom ? You are confusing fantasy with reality. This is the system we have. You are a "do nothing" I guess making false claims and complaining on an obscure interment forum makes you feel good but doesn't make you factually correct.

If you don't know that there's more than the Democrats and the Republicans who run in elections, then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe try Google for starters.

And what have I said on this topic that's incorrect? Be specific.

[Oxymoron]

You must have not read the article.

Low skill Workers should not expect to grow much with the economy, as they are easily replaceable.
If you want to grow with the economy you have to be able to leverage your work. You leverage your work not through
ineffective and counter productive unions, you do so by growing your skill set, and thinking outside the 40 hour a week box.

[Finfinder]

President Trump could give low paid workers health care and a rise in pay. Biden did both. The last pay rise was in July 2009 where the federal minimum wage was set at $7.25/hr. Coincidencely the stock market was approx 9000. Today it's 28000, over 3 times higher. Nowadays people can't make money from their bank accounts, they must say, buy property or invest. They can't do either.

I don't usually address Canadians on our issues but you are always respectful to me and I like posting with you.

President Trump could give low paid workers health care and a rise in pay. Biden did both. The last pay rise was in July 2009 where the federal minimum wage was set at $7.25/hr. Coincidencely the stock market was approx 9000. Today it's 28000, over 3 times higher. Nowadays people can't make money from their bank accounts, they must say, buy property or invest. They can't do either.

When did Biden do this and if you are referring to Obamacare that disaster was a large reason Trump was elected. Obamacre hurt more people financialy by massively increasing the cost of insurance for the majority of Americans. I'm not sure what your argument is. Trump was fixing the economy from the disaster of 8 years of Obama / Biden another issue he won the election on which means Democrats destroyed the economy. So I think you don't have a great handle on what our country wants. Maybe liberal California and New York's population. but then again how are those state doing?

Not sure your point on the stock market I do have criticism about our spending and debt loads though.

[Finfinder]

@KurtFF8

are you American ?

[Atlantis]

While more than 40 million Americans lost their job during the pandemic, American billionaires grew richer by a staggering 343 billion USD during the one months from mid-March to mid-April.

It's mind-boggling how the Trumptards can believe that their leader is good for working people.

[Finfinder]

While more than 40 million Americans lost their job during the pandemic, American billionaires grew richer by a staggering 343 billion USD during the one months from mid-March to mid-April.

It's mind-boggling how the Trumptards can believe that their leader is good for working people.

It's mind boggling that liberals can force people to close their business for 7 months and not conclude that the rich will only get richer. You don't have to support Trump to know that, just be an idiot liberal with a blood thirst for power and pretend to blame it on your political rivals.

Perhaps even more mind boggling is how the Liberals think that spending 5 Trillion dollars will not have any adverse affects to the economy. That money won't end up in "rich" hands.

[Oxymoron]

While more than 40 million Americans lost their job during the pandemic, American billionaires grew richer by a staggering 343 billion USD during the one months from mid-March to mid-April.

It's mind-boggling how the Trumptards can believe that their leader is good for working people.

Lost their jobs due in huge part to unconstitutional actions of Democratic Mayors and Governors.... you blaming job loses during the pandemic on Trump are you brain dead?

Rich will always get richer as they can leverage situations, this is healthy for the economy. It will be this fluidity that will regenerate the economy once things open back up. Trump has done more for the American worker then all Democratic presidents since maybe FDR

[Rugoz]

The policies against economic inequality are well known and Trump does almost none of them.

But it's futile to even discuss this, because Americans don't give a damn or rather vote for a billionaire who "talks like them" and shows the finger to the "establishment".

They deserve it either way.

Rich will always get richer as they can leverage situations, this is healthy for the economy.

The rich have to do jack shit, they can simply buy an index fund and watch their wealth go up. Takes 5 minutes.

The only way this "reward for nothing" could be healthy for the economy is if it increases savings and thus investment, but the US has one of the lowest saving rates in the developed world despite record inequality.

[Sivad]

"establishment".

This guy puts establishment in scare quotes and then calls other people shills...

[Rugoz]

This guy puts establishment in scare quotes and then calls other people shills...

Thank you for this valuable contribution, Sivad. Truly appreciated. How's your ressentiment doing today?

[Sivad]

Thank you for this valuable contribution, Sivad. Truly appreciated. How's your ressentiment doing today?

Have you read the latest issue of the the Atlantic? lol

[KurtFF8]

Low skill Workers should not expect to grow much with the economy, as they are easily replaceable.
If you want to grow with the economy you have to be able to leverage your work. You leverage your work not through
ineffective and counter productive unions, you do so by growing your skill set, and thinking outside the 40 hour a week box.

Absurd. There's nothing inherent about working at an "unskilled" job that prevents it from growing with the economy. This was actually the common trend in the USA between the late 1940s until about the late 1970s.

On the note of unions, it was because of their strength that this happened. So from a very real strategic and economic sense, you're incorrect to suggest that low wage workers shouldn't leverage through unions: it's actually one of their strongest tools to do so.

@KurtFF8

are you American ?

Yes

[skinster]

Yet some will still look at this and somehow manage to claim Trump is doing great things for working people.

Those will only be claims at this stage, since I haven't been able to find any reports on how Trump helps working people.

It's more of a 'my enemy's enemy' type deal with Trump. It's strange to me how all these commie kidz want the guy who's causing absolute chaos to lose and are rooting for the fucker that's gonna stabilize the system and restore the status quo. Maybe they're just simple minded nitwits who haven't figured out that the game being played here ain't checkers?

What's the "absolute chaos" you're referring to?

Also, it doesn't look like the OP creator supports "the fucker".

It's unfortunate how much you've swallowed the idea that there's huge rifts between the two parties, since the system for them remains stable. The rest is theatre.

While more than 40 million Americans lost their job during the pandemic, American billionaires grew richer by a staggering 343 billion USD during the one months from mid-March to mid-April.

It's mind-boggling how the Trumptards can believe that their leader is good for working people.

Propaganda works.

[Stormsmith]

I don't usually address Canadians on our issues but you are always respectful to me and I like posting with you.

Thanks for your lovely words. You know, I can imagine us arguing over coffee, and having a laugh.
That's how hubby and I usually argue, by trying to make each other laugh whilst arguing.



Obamacare isn't the model I would have liked, but it's better than nothing, and it affords peace of mind. Kids up to 27 drive, and have accidents. Imagine having uninsured kids driving or skiing or... peace mind, peace of mind. Or people ridiculously high pre-condition payments. Eash!

I'll look up the criticism on cost increases.

I'm not sure the Obama care plan was universally loathed. A lot of women protested for years for maintaing/improving health care.

Obama & Biden demonstrably improved your economy after Bush drove it off the cliff. I wish they'd done more to help home owners, rather than bail out banks.

As to the stock market: Just the usual "the rich get richer, the poor can't even play the game' routine, but it adds to the fact that they need more income and health care.


That said was hurricane Sally a hassle for you?

[Rancid]

This gap widening would be happening regardless of an R or D in the whorehouse. I think that's what some of our Trumpsters are missing here.

This is all a function of how the current economic system works, and not really anything specific and R or D can do. The most you could argue is that an R or D could reduce/accelerate this process, but fundamentally, it's a train that can't be stopped.

Unless.... a communist revolution.

[Politics_Observer]

@Rancid

The people themselves can stop it and not any politician. It's ultimately up to the people. However, this is not going to be stopped by a revolution, communist or otherwise. A strategy and plan which puts serious and effective pressure on political leaders to put in place good policy is what will change this slide and improve the lives of ordinary people. A revolution has the serious danger of making lives of people more miserable by introducing a police state or by trading one set of elites for another or both.

[Sivad]

It's unfortunate how much you've swallowed the idea that there's huge rifts between the two parties

Normally that's true and I could care less which party is in power, but this time around that just doesn't hold. Biden will launch an all out assault on speech and other freedoms immediately upon taking office and that's never been an issue before. And Trump is one man wrecking crew, he has said and done shit as POTUS that I still can hardly believe came from a POTUS.

Just a couple weeks ago he just bluntly stated on live tv that the pentagon brass hates him because they love the profits from endless war and he doesn't do endless war. Presidents just don't say shit like that.

My guess is you just really don't know shit about American politics, you don't understand that the shit Trump says and does is like way, way beyond the bounds of POTUS norms. Trump is definitely not a standard republican, the guy is a loose cannon and he does a lot of awesome shit and that's why the establishment hates his fucking ass so much. I'm honestly a little surprised he hasn't been assassinated yet.

[KurtFF8]

This gap widening would be happening regardless of an R or D in the whorehouse. I think that's what some of our Trumpsters are missing here.

This is all a function of how the current economic system works, and not really anything specific and R or D can do. The most you could argue is that an R or D could reduce/accelerate this process, but fundamentally, it's a train that can't be stopped.

Unless.... a communist revolution.

Exactly. Democrats and Republicans both fundamentally misunderstand the fact that the capitalist system itself is based on these kinds of divisions.