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late wrote:I doubt that very, very much.


Have you ever heard about the tri-border area?

Senator Orrin Hatch (2003) wrote: The ELN, FARC and AUC are not the only terrorist groups in our hemisphere. As you heard before, the Tri-Border area of Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil is a Hizballah and the Islamic Resistance Movement, known as Hamas, action area. DEA intelligence indicates that they generate a significant income by controlling the sale of various types of contraband in these areas, including drugs, liquor, cigarettes, weapons and forged documents. Our intelligence suggests that large sums of these earnings from these illegal activities go in support of the operatives' respective organizations in Lebanon.


The area is rarely discussed in the press, even locally, but it is well known that it's a trafficking hub in South America.
#15308603
Whether or not Hamas is running organized crime in Latin America is irrelevant to the question of the genocide being perpetrated by the IDF and the Israeli government.

The deliberate withholding of humanitarian assistance is also being exacerbated by the killing of humanitarian aid workers.

This is having the effect of eroding international support for Netanyahu and the IDF, even though it is also strengthening local support for Netanyahu and Hamas.
#15308612
wat0n wrote:I can clearly see a secondary explosion there. I don't think drones do that, but IEDs do.


There is a second missile going towards that exact location if you play it frame by frame at 3 seconds.

EDIT: In fact, in each case, you can clearly see the missile go directly towards the victims.
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#15308634
Saeko wrote:I can't right now. PoFo imgur service isn't working for some reason. But this should help you find it:

(The second missile comes in from the top left near the red banner and is visible for 2 frames as far as I can tell)

Better one:



EDIT:

Original high quality video:



Thanks. I was able to replicate it on my own, so it at least wasn't an IED.
#15308711
wat0n wrote:You mean the genocide no one has shown is happening.

Does anyone ever show that a genocide is happening or has happened. I tend to believe that a genocide took place in Rwanda, but I never saw hundreds of thousands of dead bodies that I could identify as Tustis. I didn't even see photographs of hundreds of thousands of people. Evidential standards on these matter are vague and that's being generous.

Israelis and their cheer leaders whined like bitches about 10/7. Yet that was well less than 2000 people killed and captured. People go on and on and on about genocide, but I can't get anyone to give me a serious definition of it. And don't give me that UN bollocks

to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part

That's the sort of worthless drivel that can mean anything you want it to be. How big does "part" have to be? What percentage? And how big a group does it have to be. If I kill three people from a religious group of 5 people have I committed genocide? Does a smaller group require a larger percentage? At the start I suggested that there should be a minimum of 10% of Gaza's population, a round two hundred thousand to qualify as a genocide.

However even using my rather high bar, normally you only need to shoot 2 men and a dog and people are screaming genocide, a genocide could be happening. Saying a genocide is happening is not the same as saying a genocide has happened.

If the israelis can keep the dying up at what seems like the current rate, a genocide within 2 years seems definitely attainable.
#15308724
@Rich I would not describe the 10/7 massacre as a genocide. I mean, Hamas would have loved to commit genocide against Israelis but it can't.

KurtFF8 wrote:It's sadly no surprise to see genocide denial continue to be a common tactic of the right wing.


It is sad to see false genocide claims to justify mass rape and mass murder are still common among the left.

Nothing new here, though.
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wat0n wrote:Have you ever heard about the tri-border area?



The area is rarely discussed in the press, even locally, but it is well known that it's a trafficking hub in South America.


I have just investigated your allegations . On one hand , as one may expect , Hamas , and Iran suppress drug dealing within their own respective territories . However , it has been reported that the narcotics trade as a means to fund their operations has been tolerated abroad . But with all that being said , both the United States and Israeli intelligence have likewise been accused of having connections to drug cartels , among other organized criminal activity . https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-cracks-down-on-gaza-drugs/ , https://besacenter.org/hezbollah-money-laundering-drug-trafficking/ , https://www.hstoday.us/featured/irans-narco-terrorist-network-how-iran-hezbollah-hamas-and-other-proxies-use-narcotics-to-fund-their-war-against-the-west/ , https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/cia.html , https://www.jta.org/archive/ex-agent-of-the-mossad-implicated-in-drug-deals-with-panamanian , https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180711-how-israel-armed-the-drugs-cartels-part-1/
#15308754
Deutschmania wrote:I have just investigated your allegations . On one hand , as one may expect , Hamas , and Iran suppress drug dealing within their own respective territories . However , it has been reported that the narcotics trade as a means to fund their operations has been tolerated abroad . But with all that being said , both the United States and Israeli intelligence have likewise been accused of having connections to drug cartels , among other organized criminal activity . https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-cracks-down-on-gaza-drugs/ , https://besacenter.org/hezbollah-money-laundering-drug-trafficking/ , https://www.hstoday.us/featured/irans-narco-terrorist-network-how-iran-hezbollah-hamas-and-other-proxies-use-narcotics-to-fund-their-war-against-the-west/ , https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/drugs/special/cia.html , https://www.jta.org/archive/ex-agent-of-the-mossad-implicated-in-drug-deals-with-panamanian , https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20180711-how-israel-armed-the-drugs-cartels-part-1/


Yes, these are not new allegations either. But then why would someone obsess about this when one side is alleged to do it and not the other?
#15308794
And now a report has come in of the IDF murdering a Palestinian convert to Judaism .

The Israeli military is investigating reservist soldiers who shot dead David Ben Avraham, a Palestinian who converted to Judaism to honor his grandfather for rescuing Jews during the deadly 1929 Hebron riots.

The soldiers considered the 63-year old suspicious when he got off the bus on Thursday in the West Bank near Elazar, an Israeli settlement where Jews normally alight, Israeli media said. They found a small knife that he kept for self-defense while searching his belongings and shot him. There was no reported evidence that he tried to use the knife.

One of the first reports of the incident was by Noam Arnon, a spokesman for Israeli settlers in Hebron, where Ben Avraham lived. Arnon, in grief-stricken language, reported the incident on Arutz Sheva, a right-leaning Israeli news site.

“This morning, the life of David Ben Avraham, a convert who above all wanted to join the people of Israel, came to a tragic end,” Arnon wrote.

The Israel Defense Forces, in a brief statement, did not identify Ben Avraham by name or report that he is Jewish. It said there would be an investigation.

“A short while ago, during operational activity, IDF soldiers fired shots toward a Palestinian who aroused their suspicion at the Elazar Junction,” the army said. “A hit was identified and he was later pronounced dead. Immediately after the report was received about the severe incident, the Military Advocate General’s Corps ordered the Military Police to open an investigation.”

Arnon said Ben Avraham, born Samaah Zeitoun, for years sought to convert to honor his grandfather, Iyad al Zeitoun, who is believed to have rescued 25 Jews, including whole families, during the deadly 1929 Hebron riots that killed dozens and marked an end to the centuries-old Jewish community in the city. The city is the second-holiest to Jews, after Jerusalem, and contains the Cave of the Patriarchs, which is revered by Jews and Muslims. The riots galvanized support for the Zionist enterprise among Haredi Orthodox Jews in Palestine and among Jews internationally.

Arnon said Ben Avraham sought for years to convert but faced a stringent Israeli religious system that did not know how to deal with a Palestinian seeking to convert. Jewish friends in Hebron eventually found a rabbi in B’nei B’rak, a Haredi suburb of Tel Aviv, who supervised the conversion. He posted a facsimile of Ben Avraham’s conversion certificate on the Arutz Sheva website.

Ben Avraham reported in 2019 that he faced constant harassment by Palestinian authorities for his conversion, and that he was held for 58 days in a Hebron jail and tortured, but would not relent or renounce his faith.

A video on Israel Hayom, an Israeli news site, showed Israeli first responders picking up Ben Avraham after his release from prison in 2019, and wheeling him out in a wheelchair.

Arnon wrote that Ben Avraham had sought Israeli citizenship, in part because of the hostility he endured among Palestinians for his conversion. He said Ben Avraham had been continuing his religious studies in Jerusalem and Beit Shemesh, and that he was on his way to Jerusalem when he was killed. Jewish Telegraphic Agency
#15308819
wat0n wrote:Thank you for reminding us that Hamas also has its own mafia arm, particularly with regards to drug traffic in Latin America...

You should tell this to Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. They will repeat it for you on commercial media, and then everyone will "know" this.

(Has lemon been re-hired at CNN yet? His "interview" with Elon Musk seems to have been his "proof of good faith" in mass media talking points)
#15308824
QatzelOk wrote:You should tell this to Rachel Maddow and Don Lemon. They will repeat it for you on commercial media, and then everyone will "know" this.

(Has lemon been re-hired at CNN yet? His "interview" with Elon Musk seems to have been his "proof of good faith" in mass media talking points)


:lol:

It seems you didn't like your much more accurate comparison of your mass rapist friends of Hamas with the Mafia. All your analogies backfire.
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