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[lies]Just like Saddam used to say, the only way to get people to help you is to destroy their livelyhoods, drive them into joining a terrorist organisation and blow themselves up out of frustration with you.[/lies]

US soldiers bulldoze farmers' crops
Americans accused of brutal 'punishment' tactics against villagers, while British are condemned as too soft
By Patrick Cockburn in Dhuluaya

12 October 2003

US soldiers driving bulldozers, with jazz blaring from loudspeakers, have uprooted ancient groves of date palms as well as orange and lemon trees in central Iraq as part of a new policy of collective punishment of farmers who do not give information about guerrillas attacking US troops.

The stumps of palm trees, some 70 years old, protrude from the brown earth scoured by the bulldozers beside the road at Dhuluaya, a small town 50 miles north of Baghdad. Local women were yesterday busily bundling together the branches of the uprooted orange and lemon trees and carrying then back to their homes for firewood.

Nusayef Jassim, one of 32 farmers who saw their fruit trees destroyed, said: "They told us that the resistance fighters hide in our farms, but this is not true. They didn't capture anything. They didn't find any weapons."

Other farmers said that US troops had told them, over a loudspeaker in Arabic, that the fruit groves were being bulldozed to punish the farmers for not informing on the resistance which is very active in this Sunni Muslim district.

"They made a sort of joke against us by playing jazz music while they were cutting down the trees," said one man. Ambushes of US troops have taken place around Dhuluaya. But Sheikh Hussein Ali Saleh al-Jabouri, a member of a delegation that went to the nearby US base to ask for compensation for the loss of the fruit trees, said American officers described what had happened as "a punishment of local people because 'you know who is in the resistance and do not tell us'." What the Israelis had done by way of collective punishment of Palestinians was now happening in Iraq, Sheikh Hussein added.

The destruction of the fruit trees took place in the second half of last month but, like much which happens in rural Iraq, word of what occurred has only slowly filtered out. The destruction of crops took place along a kilometre-long stretch of road just after it passes over a bridge.

Farmers say that 50 families lost their livelihoods, but a petition addressed to the coalition forces in Dhuluaya pleading in erratic English for compensation, lists only 32 people. The petition says: "Tens of poor families depend completely on earning their life on these orchards and now they became very poor and have nothing and waiting for hunger and death."

The children of one woman who owned some fruit trees lay down in front of a bulldozer but were dragged away, according to eyewitnesses who did not want to give their names. They said that one American soldier broke down and cried during the operation. When a reporter from the newspaper Iraq Today attempted to take a photograph of the bulldozers at work a soldier grabbed his camera and tried to smash it. The same paper quotes Lt Col Springman, a US commander in the region, as saying: "We asked the farmers several times to stop the attacks, or to tell us who was responsible, but the farmers didn't tell us."

Informing US troops about the identity of their attackers would be extremely dangerous in Iraqi villages, where most people are related and everyone knows each other. The farmers who lost their fruit trees all belong to the Khazraji tribe and are unlikely to give information about fellow tribesmen if they are, in fact, attacking US troops.

Asked how much his lost orchard was worth, Nusayef Jassim said in a distraught voice: "It is as if someone cut off my hands and you asked me how much my hands were worth."


Originally published here.
By Steven_K
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The double standard with the US and Isreal on these issues is dumbfounding. When Isreal commits these brutal acts of collective punishment and attacks on civilian's livlyhoods, as often happens on olive orchards in the West Bank, there is an international outcry, as there should be, but when the US commints the same acts, and in a crueler and more calloused manner, less is said, especially in the US media.
By smashthestate
#32524
And the Palastinians don't impede on Jewish civilian's livlihood by walking into a crowded restuarant and blowing themselves up? It goes BOTH ways.
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By naked_turk
#32538
How very very sad... Why don't these same people go bulldoze some whole neighbourhoods in NY? Same logic can be applied there can't it? You know who is selling the crack, tell us or we flatten the whole area! You know who killed mr. X, tell us or...

No, no, they can't do that. They wouldn't. I was forgetting that Americans are actually human, and unlike Iraqis, deserve basic rights.
By Nox
#32582
I have said this on another topic ...

I wonder what the rest of the story is?

For the US military to do this ... there really is a whole lot more than what this article put out.

Nox
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By Comrade Ogilvy
#32586
Those who aid and abett terrorists are just as responsible as those they're protecting.
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By naked_turk
#32589
JT123 wrote:Those who aid and abett terrorists are just as responsible as those they're protecting.


And who are these terrorists, JT?

And further, what if you're living comfortable in your home, someone knocks on your door... "There are criminals in this area. Who are they and where are they hiding?"... "I don't know" you say. Your house and 50 other people's is bulldozed, because someone broke the law somewhere near your place of residence.
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By MB.
#32613
I agree with Turk.

Perhaps the US needs a leason in nation restructuring, as they seem to be having trouble- what with the bombings, and unexpected resistance and all.

Perhaps the French can give them some tips, eh? Say... Battle of Algeirs style? Then the Iraqi people will be sure to jump right onto the American bandwagon!
By GandalfTheGrey
#32721
Mr Bill wrote:Perhaps the French can give them some tips, eh? Say... Battle of Algeirs style? Then the Iraqi people will be sure to jump right onto the American bandwagon!


:lol: :lol:

yeah, or how about Dien Bien Phu style? :D :D

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