- 01 Mar 2023 03:36
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"In Russia last year, 400 people were arrested for things they said on social media. How many people do you think were arrested in Britain for things they said on social media, last year? 3,300. One example, there was a young (19 year old) woman from Liverpool, Chelsea Russell, her friend was killed in a car crash, and she posted lyrics of his favorite song... on her instagram. The lyrics. And it was a rap song, so the lyrics contained several instances of the N-word. She was arrested, prosecuted, found guilty, given 500 hours of community service and a fine, tagged (required to wear an electronic monitoring device), and for a year she was under 8 p.m. to 8 a.m. curfew. In Britain, in 2018."
"So we talk about the Chinese system of social credits, and describe it as the emerging of a digital prison. But we're doing it to ourselves voluntarily in the West, so to speak.
So we'll cancel people if they say the wrong thing on social media. But you're telling me now that three and a half thousand people were visited by the police."
"No, far more were visited by the police. There are cases just half a year ago -- and I defended Joe Brand, British comedian over this... she made some comments -- which, you know, it wasn't a great joke, but she talked about this milkshake throwing episode, where people were having milkshakes thrown at them. Well she said that, 'Well, if I was doing it I'd throw some acid over them.' That's not a great joke. But she got a visit from the police, on the basis that she was, quote 'inciting violence'. And they eventually decided not to proceed with prosecution. But it was obviously a joke. She's a comedian, she was on a comedy program. The context is very clear."
"... In that court case, the prosecutor argued that context and intent are irrelevant, and the judge accepted this. ... Now get your mind around that, and think about the potential implications, of that."
"Arrested for a social media post" | Konstantin Kisin - YouTube
The Atlas Society, Konstantin Kisin
related thread:
Man investigated by police for retweeting transgender limerick (Jun 5, 2022 in Libertarianism section)
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"So we talk about the Chinese system of social credits, and describe it as the emerging of a digital prison. But we're doing it to ourselves voluntarily in the West, so to speak.
So we'll cancel people if they say the wrong thing on social media. But you're telling me now that three and a half thousand people were visited by the police."
"No, far more were visited by the police. There are cases just half a year ago -- and I defended Joe Brand, British comedian over this... she made some comments -- which, you know, it wasn't a great joke, but she talked about this milkshake throwing episode, where people were having milkshakes thrown at them. Well she said that, 'Well, if I was doing it I'd throw some acid over them.' That's not a great joke. But she got a visit from the police, on the basis that she was, quote 'inciting violence'. And they eventually decided not to proceed with prosecution. But it was obviously a joke. She's a comedian, she was on a comedy program. The context is very clear."
"... In that court case, the prosecutor argued that context and intent are irrelevant, and the judge accepted this. ... Now get your mind around that, and think about the potential implications, of that."
"Arrested for a social media post" | Konstantin Kisin - YouTube
The Atlas Society, Konstantin Kisin
related thread:
Man investigated by police for retweeting transgender limerick (Jun 5, 2022 in Libertarianism section)
viewtopic.php?f=49&t=182185