[CounterChaos]

We human beings have the right to defend ourselves from the ravages, the excesses, the neglect of capitalism. We human beings have the right to be spared the misery, the unhealthiness, the shame of a system that we by virtue of birth suffer from. We human beings have the right to purge our conscious of this shame, this unhealthiness, this neglect and the misery that this system has placed on our brothers and sisters all over the world. Enjoy your capitalism.

[Wills]

We have a duty as humans to look after those less fortunate than ourselves, and those less fortunate have a right to demand that help from others.

Healthcare is absolutely a right.

[Ash Faulkner]

The car or land is not a sapient being.

If they are not inherent, then they are privileges.

Taken together then, we can agree that property is not absolute, or of the same moral value as person? Marvellous. Welcome to the left, Socialist Eagle

Now, on the issue of positive rights vs. negative rights, your argument is that a right to healthcare, or education, or anything requiring positive action on the part of another, cannot be a right at all, because it would require an attendant duty (my right to healthcare requires somebody else's duty to provide it, etc). But you're talking as if people don't become teachers and doctors voluntarily. On the contrary, many people very willingly and happily enter these careers because they want to do good for others. Doctors are not forced to heal, and teachers are not forced to teach: so your objection to 'positive rights' (which I agree aren't rights, but I do think they are important social benefits) on that grounds is false. Teachers will teach and doctors will heal provided they have the power to do so.

And this is the real crux of the argument. As we can agree that doctors and teachers provide their services happily, you can't be objecting to them being forced to provide service (as they aren't forced). Your objection is not on the part of the teachers and doctors: it is on the part of the taxpayers who provide the funds for them. In other words, you are not arguing against teachers and doctors being forced to provide their services (as they do not object to providing those services, they positively want to), you are objecting to taxpayers being forced to pay for them. That is, you aren't objecting to people being forced to do things (eg. doctors being coerced into providing healthcare), you are objecting to property being taken away to fund those things.

But as we've already established with your initial quotes, the rights to property are not inherent, and thus are not rights at all, so taxation being used to fund healthcare and education - which healthcare and education providers willingly embark upon - is perfectly just, according to your own logic