Bulaba Jones wrote:I reflect the sentiments of others in this thread: Kavanaugh is a dipshit and is a pretty shitty human being based on just his recent behavior, but Feinstein is also a piece of shit.
Potty language aside, what do you mean? Kavanaugh is a long way from a dipshit. That doesn't mean you shouldn't disagree with him. What exactly has he done or how has he behaved that gives you such disdain?
Bulaba Jones wrote:I'm not entirely certain about the truthfulness of this incident, and the fact that she was sitting on this to begin with makes her a pretty big scumbag. As far as I know, the statute of limitations are past and the accuser herself seems uncooperative, so I'm not sure what Feinstein was thinking besides hoping this drama was going somewhere (or maybe she was betting on a public circus over the accusation).
Clearly, they were looking to delay the vote. They already had this information, withheld it from the proceedings and are now using it to suggest it is some sort of last minute thing when it is not.
Bulaba Jones wrote:Both Feinstein and Kavanaugh are awful people. I say lock them in a room with broken-off wooden poles and have them fight to the death for who gets to leave.
Feinstein is a fossil. Kavanaugh would win that one easily.
Drlee wrote:That's right. I have little doubt that something happened. That is not the point.
I support the me-too movement. Women close to me have been victimized and I abhor that. Clearly something should be done. But this is a weapon that should be used very carefully. There is a real danger to women that this just becomes old-hat. If he did it, shame on him.
Shame on the 17 year old boy. The man 36 years later? Are we to be continually shamed for wetting the bed at 5 years old? At what point does that stop? We're talking a full adult life of public service. Even if he were guilty, he's certainly lived an adult life where there does not seem to be any sort of corroborating behavior suggesting criminality.
I do not support the #metoo movement. If women want equality, they need to bear the burdens of equality too. That means having the responsibility to make timely complaints and having some particulars when you make them.
Drlee wrote:The bigger problem, as I see it, is that "women" don't need this to oppose Kavanaugh. He is about as bad a candidate for women as one could imagine. If a tiny fraction of women would actually get off their asses and write their senator that they are opposed to this guy and he would be over. Would they like the alternative? Not hardly. On thing is clear and it is this:
Well, I agree that a substantive basis for opposing him is more appropriate. However, I do not agree that "women" would all arrive at the same opinion or conclusion. Roe v. Wade is a long time ago. Women of a certain age are all the products of parents that had children whether they wanted to or not. There aren't as many children of the licentious these days, because many of them have been aborted. Meanwhile, America is making up for the loss of population with immigrants. My maid is coming tomorrow. She gets a ride to my house. Why? She doesn't drive. Mexican. Very traditional. Asian women are also considerably more socially conservative. They aren't going to be passionate about abortion when they aren't having irresponsible sex or finding themselves completely inebriated and raped. So they aren't as likely to find themselves out marching with the leftists. It's not just about politics. At a subjective level, they just have no life experience or value system that relates to the more radical feminists.
Drlee wrote:Get off of your asses and get to work. Grow a pair of ovaries, stop watching Dr. Phil and write to your Senator.
That is a problem too. Many people simply aren't passionate about politics.
Drlee wrote:Tell him/her that you will not vote for him again if he confirms a candidate like Kavanaugh. If you are not willing to do this then screw you.
Unlike you, I don't think Kavanaugh is a rapist. Whereas, I thought it was probably likely the Roy Moore dated underaged girls. The political problem is that women have fathers, brothers and sons--and some of these women depend upon a man financially. So seeing men's careers ruined on a completely unfounded allegation from 35 years ago when the man in question was a minor is unsettling to say the least. I wonder if our Jewish interlocutors--Feinstein, Blumenthal and Schumer--will champion the presumption of innocence if some new Hitler figure comes around and accuses them of things they didn't do (or maybe did do). They should know better than to engage in blood libels.
SpecialOlympian wrote:Former classmates are beginning to come out and verify that they had heard about the rape.
She asked a friend of a Supreme Court nominee out to the prom 35 or 36 years ago and he stood her up and got drunk instead. Is this really how the Democrats want to conduct judicial nominations?
maz wrote:Because everything on Facebook is true!
If high school parties is all they have, there's nothing. We grew up in the Animal House generation. Kavanaugh was probably a guy who got "wasted" on half a beer.
SpecialOlympian wrote:It's almost as if they prepared it in anticipation of some unforeseeable event.
It was unforeseeable with Clarence Thomas. This sort of bullshit has been foreseeable ever since.
suntzu wrote:If everything she said is true, what is he guilty of?
He wouldn't have been charged back in the 1980s either. Back then, women wanted to be in rock bands.
Stormsmith wrote:CONFIRMATION OF KAVANAUGH WILL RESULT IN WORK - TO - RULE STRIKES
Hit 'em where it hurts
Which will do exactly nothing, except maybe get women fired or side line them for promotion. You do realize that the goal of your side is to prevent him from getting confirmed, not to bitch and squeal endlessly after he is confirmed, right?
MistyTiger wrote:Kavanaugh is a scum bag and a big spender. I hope more people accuse him of wrongdoing. He is not all right which explains the attempts to discourage investigations into his past.
Being a scum bag isn't a crime and neither is being a big spender. These are arbitrary accusations of no significant merit. If you don't like him because he is ideologically opposed to your political objectives, you'd be better understood by people if you said so. What would more people accusing him of wrongdoing accomplish? Unless you have a basis for legal action, it is nothing more than media hullabaloo. There have been six FBI investigations into his past. They do it for each job change. All the FBI can do is amend their report. It is not a legal question. It is a political question.
Drlee wrote:The problem here is that we are focusing on Kavanaugh. He is not the problem. The problem is that the republican party is supporting this guy. He is only here because he offers Trump amnesty. That's all. Otherwise he is a nobody.
Judges can't grant amnesty. SCOTUS justices have just one vote. Kavanaugh was one of the people Trump indicated he would appoint if elected. He's a strict constructionist, which is why he is being opposed by the left. That's why they opposed Bork, and why they tried to impugn Clarence Thomas too.
Drlee wrote:The republican party is considering sending an accused rapist to the supreme court. And they are doing it fast. Why? Because mid terms. The very idea that they would do this without properly investigating it is not even the question. They guy should be out already. He has a lifelong job as a federal judge already. He is not being hurt. The question is why the republicans would so disrespect women that they would even consider this guy.
He hasn't been charged with anything, and in fact cannot be charged with rape for something 36 years ago. There are no witnesses. She did not make the accusation during the hearings. They sprung this after the hearings were over, because they had nothing else left. She can testify under oath if she would like to. Apparently, she is refusing to do that, and is calling for an FBI investigation. The FBI doesn't have authority to investigate non-Federal matters. They can assist local law enforcement if local law enforcement requested it. However, Ford has to specify a particular act at a particular time and date at a particular location. If she cannot or will not do that, there isn't even a political question to consider. It is merely the delaying tactics of leftists who do not want a strict constructionist on the Supreme Court. Kennedy was a weasel, and they want him replaced by a weasel. Kavanaugh doesn't fit the bill.
Drlee wrote:I think the republicans realize that women are not a meaningful political force in America these days.
Women don't vote as a bloc. They never have.
Drlee wrote:For some reason, that no man will ever understand, they fail repeatedly to support women candidates or women's issues. I am at a loss.
It's the same reason men don't vote as a bloc. Kavanaugh has been maligned by a baseless charge for which there is no evidence, no witnesses, is not prosecutable, and clearly has no bearing on his conduct as a federal judge when among his other duties is to ensure that a defendant is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Yet, we have people like Chuck Schumer and Richard Blumenthal (ignoring the obvious fact that they are Jews), ostensibly men unless they use other pronouns, going along with Senator Feinstein's (also a Jew) ruse. Why aren't they taking the man's side? Why aren't they presuming the defendant (who cannot be prosecuted anyway) innocent? Could it be political partisanship, perhaps?
Drlee wrote:I do not like wimpy women. I was not raised by one and I avoid their company. I did not date them and I did not marry one. But the fact is that the term "the weaker sex" is being validated every day, day after day. Perhaps there will come a time when women stand up for themselves rather than asking we men to take care of them. Probably not in my lifetime.
Feminism and lesbianism seem to have a common root in low sexual dimorphism. High sexual dimorphism is a huge problem for egalitarians. It is good that leftists continue to try things that will never work. At least they are wasting their time instead of being productive, which would be terrible for humanity.
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