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By Akuma
#14345949
So China claims it has send a rover on the moon. That appears doubtful at best. Just minutes after the landing the chinese announced it would already start its tour...thats impossible. Evry space agency needs days to start the rover. The system is checked, area is checked. It must be 100% sure, that nothing can go wrong...

Then China released exactly 5 pictures:

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Thats it...since then silence. No news,no propaganda...nothing. I doubt China spends a few hundred million $$$ to make 5 pictures.

It looks like they lost their "Jade Rabbit"...next time they should send a Jade Turtle. Rabbits are known to have a short life span.
#14345955
They only released those first few pictures to prove they landed safely and had deployed the rover, every picture they take after that will be kept and closely studied before being released to the press. I'm sure it's still rolling about up there.
#14345956
Jessup is right. The moon rover is a major source of propaganda for China, and they're understandably being cautious about how much information and data they are publicizing. They released photos and material to show that it landed, and they'll release more once they properly scrutinize it.
#14345959
Bulaba Jones wrote:Jessup is right. The moon rover is a major source of propaganda for China, and they're understandably being cautious about how much information and data they are publicizing. They released photos and material to show that it landed, and they'll release more once they properly scrutinize it.


That is doubtful since no signals can be detected from the moon nor go to the moon at the moment.
#14345961
It looks like they lost their "Jade Rabbit"...next time they should send a Jade Turtle. Rabbits are known to have a short life span.

In Chinese mythology, there is a rabbit on the Moon (just as in the West, we believe there is a 'man' on the moon). There is also a cassia tree and a beautiful young maiden, and the elixir of life.... Hmmm... perhaps this mission has objectives the Chinese haven't told us about...?
#14345967
This news article should fill in the gaps as to the operations of the Chinese lunar mission...

Chinese rover hibernating to survive frigid lunar night
BY STEPHEN CLARK
SPACEFLIGHT NOW
Posted: December 27, 2013

China's moon rover is sleeping through its first lunar night after completing an initial survey of its surroundings, a mostly uniform gray landscape interrupted by scattered boulders and craters.

Since landing on the moon Dec. 14, the rover has driven off its landing platform, activated on-board scientific instrumentation, flexed its robotic arm and driven around the lander as the two spacecraft inspected each other with still and video cameras.

The Chang'e 3 mission achieved China's first soft landing on another celestial body and made the Asian power the third nation to land a spacecraft on the moon.

Chinese state media reported the rover went into hibernation at 2123 GMT (4:23 p.m. EST) Wednesday. Plutonium-powered heaters will keep the rover's sensitive electronics warm during the two-week lunar night, during which temperatures will dip as low as minus 180 degrees Celsius, or minus 292 degrees Fahrenheit.

The four-legged stationary lander also entered sleep mode Wednesday to conserve power, the official Xinhua news agency reported.

Mission officials told state-run news outlets the two spacecraft would be reactivated around Jan. 12 to continue operations during the moon's two-week daytime period.

The rover stands nearly 4 feet tall and has a mass of about 140 kilograms, or 308 pounds.

China named the rover Yutu after soliciting suggestions from the public. Yutu translates as "Jade Rabbit" in English.

In Chinese mythology, Yutu is a rabbit who accompanies the goddess Chang'e to the moon.

The six-wheeled Yutu rover drove off the lander on a ramp a few hours after it touched down on the moon, beginning a methodical semicircle drive around the landing platform as cameras snapped images of each craft, including a brief video clip broadcast on Chinese state television.

"Ten pictures have been taken at five spots so far, and all of them are better than we expected," said Wu Weiren, chief designer of the China lunar probe program, in a story published on the website of China Central Television. "The rover has moved in a semicircle around the lander. Afterwards, they will begin to conduct scientific explorations of the geography and geomorphology of the landing spot and nearby areas, and materials like minerals and elements there. We will also explore areas 30 meters and 100 meters beneath the lunar soil [using ground-penetrating radar]."

After surveying the lander, the Yutu rover headed south and parked about 40 meters, or 131 feet, away before going into hibernation this week.

The rover could operate longer than its planned three-month mission, officials said.

"The exploration will continue longer than we planned, because all the instruments and equipments are working very well," Wu said in a story posted on CCTV's website.

The rover carries panoramic cameras, a ground-penetrating radar to probe the moon's subsurface structure, and X-ray and near-infrared spectrometers to measure the composition of lunar rocks and soil. The scientific payload has been activated and is reported to be working well.

Engineers unlimbered Yutu's robotic arm Monday and checked its ability to move its elbow and wrist joints. The arm will be used to examine rocks up close later in the mission.

The Chang'e 3 lander, designed for a one-year mission, carries cameras and an ultraviolet telescope to observe Earth's plasmasphere and conduct the first long-term astronomical observations from the lunar surface, according to China.

The rover took a four-day break from Dec. 16 to Dec. 20 as a precaution against high temperatures when the sun was highest in the sky after landing in the middle of the lunar day. Ground controllers at the mission's Beijing operations center switched the rover's systems back on earlier than planned, and officials say future midday interruptions may not be necessary.

The Chang'e 3 mission landed in Mare Imbrium, one of the dark regions of the moon carved out by a massive meteorite 3.9 billion years ago and filled with solidified lava.

NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter flew over the Chang'e 3 landing site this week and took pictures with the probe's high-resolution camera. NASA spokesperson Dwayne Brown said Friday the images could be released early next week, but it was too soon to determine whether the orbiter could spot the lander or rover on the lunar surface.

NASA is banned from bilateral cooperation with China's space program under legislation passed in 2011.

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/china/cha ... bernation/

So we will have to wait till Jan. 12 to hear more news of the Jade Rabbit, hopefully it will wake up OK and be able to continue the mission.
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Aside from still photos, China's CCTV broadcast some live footage of the rover, which was slowly released from the lander, but the video has not been released to the foreign media. The video posted by the British TV channel also features the lander’s initial approach and its landing quite graphically. There is enough evidence that China became the third country to soft-land a spacecraft on lunar soil after the Soviet Union and the United States and it pulled off a massive PR stunt, catering to the domestic audience. The Chinese government needs to keep assuring its people that things are going in the right direction under the Communist leadership, which is why it spends a disproportionate amount of money on its space programme to achieve this propaganda effect.
#14346187
Potemkin wrote:In Chinese mythology, there is a rabbit on the Moon (just as in the West, we believe there is a 'man' on the moon). There is also a cassia tree and a beautiful young maiden, and the elixir of life.... Hmmm... perhaps this mission has objectives the Chinese haven't told us about...?



So the Jade Rabbit is current unavailable while seeking the affections of some celestial tart?
#14347006
So the Jade Rabbit is current unavailable while seeking the affections of some celestial tart?

Looks very much like it, foxdemon....
#14348795
which is why it spends a disproportionate amount of money on its space programme


China spends under $3 billion/year on its entire space efforts, including gps development. This is nothing. It gives more in loans to various east african states every year and is slated to spend $1 trillion/year on infrastructure all the way up to 2018.

Yes, disproportionate in the sense that it doesn't receive jack shit in funding compared to just about everything else. In fact the US spends far more on NASA as a proprotion of its budget.
#14348807
The moon rover isn't lost. They know exactly where it is. It's on the moon.

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